“Why is it okay to force people to consent to things to which they obviously did not consent? Why is okay to force people to be a part of something they don’t want to be a part of? Why is it okay to subject them to involuntary dominion?”
It isn’t ok.
This is why they brainwash us into believing it is.
All the methods you list seem perfectly reasonable to me, but no doubt would engender strong resistance, and I don't see any of them (except perhaps seasteading and island grabbing, which come with cost and/or logistical problems (how to source fresh water, energy, food...)) as likely to be practical unless/until there's a broad shift in public sentiment.
Another possibility: pick an existing nation that's not as far down the road to tyranny as America is, move there, and seek to influence it toward even great freedom. Admittedly, the pickings are slim, but just by being as bad as it's quickly becoming, America is making a lot of other places look good by comparison. Full disclosure, I'm in my 70's and plan to remain here in the U.S., but moving without founding a new country is one way to go.
Assuming a person is not rich, I think that what we're doing now is about as good as it gets: establish lines of communication, get our philosophy out to the world, convey implicit warnings that beyond a certain point, encroachments to liberty may be met by resolute defense, and so forth.
This is why I want Quebec secession from Canada and French secession from the EU. Just the other day, I heard someone speak scornfully of the fact that the 'Quebecois actually believe their, their own country!' and when I argued but they are, they have a distinct language, culture et that the only reason they are still here is because of right by conquest, and because Canada & the US occupied them together in 1973. But those troops aren't there anymore, so why shouldn't Quebec push for secession?
Nous sommes differents, we are different and we are tired of Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton's dictacts and commands, just as much as Alberta is.
Yet the moment you mention Quebec was occupied, people go quiet, and then talk resentfully of being ungrateful to which I always laugh incredulously. 'Ungrateful that they were conquered?' and the response is always, 'ungrateful for all that we do for them!', but the funny thing is most Albertans I've met are the ones who tend to say, 'let them leave they should have the right!', in contrast to Ontarians.
Over-all, I support Texas seceding, I support Quebec & France leaving their respective unions, and if other parts of different countries want to leave sure, go ahead. Don't know why this always stirs up so much controversy, what's the point of saying you believe in free will and freedom if people aren't allowed to exercise it?
Something I believe the US (and all other countries for that matter) should do is create autonomous zones for testing economic/government policy. This would help people not only be able to live more independently and freely, and able to create their own laws; as well as having their efforts be part of studies that can help benefit the larger nation; but also give the people in these zones a "safety net"--so to speak--if things go haywire (which they inevitably will in some autonomous zones).
But if this is not possible, then, yes, the US should let states leave if they want. Like California. Let them go, US, it'll benefit all of us at the point.
The right to secession is entailed by freedom of association, which trumps every welfare entitlement. And secession is no doubt a legal possibility. If the UK can do it, so can American states.
What if a bunch of counties along the Canadian border decide they no longer want to be a part of America?
Texas has already asked to leave peacefully. The Supreme Court told us that we can't leave, ever. By the way, Texas came in by treaty, not conquest. That treaty had an out that Texas could leave if it wanted to, and if we wanted to, we could break up into four different countries doing so.
So, no, the only way we get to leave is to fight our way out.
Fascinating questions you ask. I love the idea of going Galt. I just think “they” will never leave us alone in the long term unless we find a way to be truly unfindable (difficult to impossible considering modern technology), or we form some sort of militaristic society that is strong enough to defend ourselves (which has its own problems).
When the power balance is so out of whack between 'the system' and individuals, even if you took up arms, it would be a challenge. And, I would argue, people would naturally form a new 'government' because that's what they know. And it would take a while, but eventually it would get back to the same horrible state we are in now.
This just came across my desk via Linkedin. I had pretty much dropped social media because...contrary to what others may like...
I had left. I am free. I've been free for years.
I left some here, so I do have a presence and a business in the US, and created a new life there, where I am happier. In fact I live in the two best places on the planet because I chose my destiny, rather than having destiny choosing it for me.
I bought a flat in Budapest Hungary seven years ago, in a nation where your first reaction on entering might be an overwhelming sense of sanity. Never mind the beauty of the place where every day is an adventure, and one just gapes at the beauty all around, in a nation whose people inhabit your minds and souls (even if you are unaware of it.)
As it were, everything coming from this mittle-european nation you can barely find on a map, everything you touch or touches you has a Hungarian's fingerprints on it.
In fact, were it not for the most beautiful woman in her time, you could not possibly be seeing these words, for she invented the means for cellular communications (CDMA), cryptography, wifi, bluetooth, missile and torpedo guidance systems, GPS, and whatnot. Another Hungarian invented the nuclear age and the computer. (NO, IT WAS NOT THE BRIT GAY GUY WHO INVENTED IT.)
Another Hungarian made your lives infinitely cleaner and more Covid-resistant 170 years ago with the command WASH YOUR HANDS. Another just won the NOBEL for mRNA technology, Katalin Karikó, the most important medical advance of the 21st century. It will change immunology science for the future, as well as other treatments for heart disease. Yes, mRNA will cure, not cause, heart disease, the greatest killer of humanity.
This fact is so, regardless of what propaganda the political extremes have been inundated with, or Robert Malone MD's chronic self-aggrandizement. He's the man who did not invent it, not even with the parts for which he made claims. That part was invented by another Hungarian, Norbert Pardi.
If anything, Malone was a minor player in the industry. Hungarians invented the ball point pen to the computer (von Neumann), to the electric vehicle in 1828 (not a misprint), to the holograph on your credit card, to the LP and color TV, to music reproduction (Peter Goldmark), all of it recounted in THE MARTIANS - A TRUE STORY.
How far out would the Hill People have to go before they were beyond the ambit of the Village? Five miles? Ten miles? How far do they have to run away from the contention that the Village has some sort of automatic claim upon them—upon their labors, their minds, and their stuff?
Wall Street and hence the USA government feels that Russia owes America all its stuff
The finding is - according to my sources - that ultimately we can't leave unless we learn a lot more about ourselves and our actual capabilities.
We are held here on this planet precisely because we prefer freedom and revolt to a "smoothly running, predictable" social order. The latter, it seems, devolves inevitably into authoritarian forms.
An appreciation regarding all of this starts with a willingness to take another look at reincarnation. Past life memory has proven to be the only way we have been able to recover a better understanding of our current situation. If you will not study the information obtained from past life recalls, then you will have to find some other way out.
Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers, back in 1927, wrote in the Harvard Business Review,
“We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture. People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man’s desires must overshadow his needs.” This THING is massive. But all we really need to do is to stop buying and stop participating, and it all collapses. That's why they won't let us leave.
Christopher, we really need to touch base. If you like, please get back to me. If you want, you can read what I'm working on right now - "The Shadow World."
“Why is it okay to force people to consent to things to which they obviously did not consent? Why is okay to force people to be a part of something they don’t want to be a part of? Why is it okay to subject them to involuntary dominion?”
It isn’t ok.
This is why they brainwash us into believing it is.
But that’s ending now.
I do not consent. ❤️
All the methods you list seem perfectly reasonable to me, but no doubt would engender strong resistance, and I don't see any of them (except perhaps seasteading and island grabbing, which come with cost and/or logistical problems (how to source fresh water, energy, food...)) as likely to be practical unless/until there's a broad shift in public sentiment.
Another possibility: pick an existing nation that's not as far down the road to tyranny as America is, move there, and seek to influence it toward even great freedom. Admittedly, the pickings are slim, but just by being as bad as it's quickly becoming, America is making a lot of other places look good by comparison. Full disclosure, I'm in my 70's and plan to remain here in the U.S., but moving without founding a new country is one way to go.
Assuming a person is not rich, I think that what we're doing now is about as good as it gets: establish lines of communication, get our philosophy out to the world, convey implicit warnings that beyond a certain point, encroachments to liberty may be met by resolute defense, and so forth.
This is why I want Quebec secession from Canada and French secession from the EU. Just the other day, I heard someone speak scornfully of the fact that the 'Quebecois actually believe their, their own country!' and when I argued but they are, they have a distinct language, culture et that the only reason they are still here is because of right by conquest, and because Canada & the US occupied them together in 1973. But those troops aren't there anymore, so why shouldn't Quebec push for secession?
Nous sommes differents, we are different and we are tired of Ottawa/Toronto/Edmonton's dictacts and commands, just as much as Alberta is.
Yet the moment you mention Quebec was occupied, people go quiet, and then talk resentfully of being ungrateful to which I always laugh incredulously. 'Ungrateful that they were conquered?' and the response is always, 'ungrateful for all that we do for them!', but the funny thing is most Albertans I've met are the ones who tend to say, 'let them leave they should have the right!', in contrast to Ontarians.
Over-all, I support Texas seceding, I support Quebec & France leaving their respective unions, and if other parts of different countries want to leave sure, go ahead. Don't know why this always stirs up so much controversy, what's the point of saying you believe in free will and freedom if people aren't allowed to exercise it?
Something I believe the US (and all other countries for that matter) should do is create autonomous zones for testing economic/government policy. This would help people not only be able to live more independently and freely, and able to create their own laws; as well as having their efforts be part of studies that can help benefit the larger nation; but also give the people in these zones a "safety net"--so to speak--if things go haywire (which they inevitably will in some autonomous zones).
But if this is not possible, then, yes, the US should let states leave if they want. Like California. Let them go, US, it'll benefit all of us at the point.
The right to secession is entailed by freedom of association, which trumps every welfare entitlement. And secession is no doubt a legal possibility. If the UK can do it, so can American states.
What if a bunch of counties along the Canadian border decide they no longer want to be a part of America?
Texas has already asked to leave peacefully. The Supreme Court told us that we can't leave, ever. By the way, Texas came in by treaty, not conquest. That treaty had an out that Texas could leave if it wanted to, and if we wanted to, we could break up into four different countries doing so.
So, no, the only way we get to leave is to fight our way out.
Fascinating questions you ask. I love the idea of going Galt. I just think “they” will never leave us alone in the long term unless we find a way to be truly unfindable (difficult to impossible considering modern technology), or we form some sort of militaristic society that is strong enough to defend ourselves (which has its own problems).
I left .
Leaving as a group isn’t going to work.
People need to leave and withdraw individually and for their own reasons.
Then we find each other and build community through publications and occasional meet ups. We need to forge our own way independently first.
I traveled solo across this country for almost four years in my truck camper.
There is no deeper connection than finding others who have made similar lifestyle choices .
The reasons vary widely, but we all share stories of becoming more and more done and needing freedom.
It’s a big step away from the herd.
Are you really ready to leave ?
To symbolize my dissent, I refuse to vote.
I’m out.
When the power balance is so out of whack between 'the system' and individuals, even if you took up arms, it would be a challenge. And, I would argue, people would naturally form a new 'government' because that's what they know. And it would take a while, but eventually it would get back to the same horrible state we are in now.
Hello Christopher, how are you?
This just came across my desk via Linkedin. I had pretty much dropped social media because...contrary to what others may like...
I had left. I am free. I've been free for years.
I left some here, so I do have a presence and a business in the US, and created a new life there, where I am happier. In fact I live in the two best places on the planet because I chose my destiny, rather than having destiny choosing it for me.
I bought a flat in Budapest Hungary seven years ago, in a nation where your first reaction on entering might be an overwhelming sense of sanity. Never mind the beauty of the place where every day is an adventure, and one just gapes at the beauty all around, in a nation whose people inhabit your minds and souls (even if you are unaware of it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nd5AtZIrTk Go FULL SCREEN AND SOUND UP!
WOW Hungary! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2uHgcL3XQ
The greatest price increases in real estate year after year, now consecutive over 7 years sans the covid period:
https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/budapest-ranked-fastest-growing-housing-market-globally-211083
https://www.towerbudapest.com/en/property_management/news/24-budapest-housing-price-growth-is-the-fastest-worldwide/806
For the third consecutive year CPAC is meeting in Budapest: https://www.cpachungary.com/en/
As it were, everything coming from this mittle-european nation you can barely find on a map, everything you touch or touches you has a Hungarian's fingerprints on it.
In fact, were it not for the most beautiful woman in her time, you could not possibly be seeing these words, for she invented the means for cellular communications (CDMA), cryptography, wifi, bluetooth, missile and torpedo guidance systems, GPS, and whatnot. Another Hungarian invented the nuclear age and the computer. (NO, IT WAS NOT THE BRIT GAY GUY WHO INVENTED IT.)
Another Hungarian made your lives infinitely cleaner and more Covid-resistant 170 years ago with the command WASH YOUR HANDS. Another just won the NOBEL for mRNA technology, Katalin Karikó, the most important medical advance of the 21st century. It will change immunology science for the future, as well as other treatments for heart disease. Yes, mRNA will cure, not cause, heart disease, the greatest killer of humanity.
This fact is so, regardless of what propaganda the political extremes have been inundated with, or Robert Malone MD's chronic self-aggrandizement. He's the man who did not invent it, not even with the parts for which he made claims. That part was invented by another Hungarian, Norbert Pardi.
If anything, Malone was a minor player in the industry. Hungarians invented the ball point pen to the computer (von Neumann), to the electric vehicle in 1828 (not a misprint), to the holograph on your credit card, to the LP and color TV, to music reproduction (Peter Goldmark), all of it recounted in THE MARTIANS - A TRUE STORY.
https://andrewgbenjamin.substack.com/p/the-martians-a-true-story
All best wishes to you Christopher in your new life.
How far out would the Hill People have to go before they were beyond the ambit of the Village? Five miles? Ten miles? How far do they have to run away from the contention that the Village has some sort of automatic claim upon them—upon their labors, their minds, and their stuff?
Wall Street and hence the USA government feels that Russia owes America all its stuff
The reach is global of these parasites
People do leave. Tina Turner left. It’s difficult but has been done. It helps to be rich and famous lol
The finding is - according to my sources - that ultimately we can't leave unless we learn a lot more about ourselves and our actual capabilities.
We are held here on this planet precisely because we prefer freedom and revolt to a "smoothly running, predictable" social order. The latter, it seems, devolves inevitably into authoritarian forms.
An appreciation regarding all of this starts with a willingness to take another look at reincarnation. Past life memory has proven to be the only way we have been able to recover a better understanding of our current situation. If you will not study the information obtained from past life recalls, then you will have to find some other way out.
In case you missed it https://bailiwicknewsarchives.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/2023-bailiwick-news-vol-7-issues-1-4-jan-to-april.pdf
Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers, back in 1927, wrote in the Harvard Business Review,
“We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture. People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man’s desires must overshadow his needs.” This THING is massive. But all we really need to do is to stop buying and stop participating, and it all collapses. That's why they won't let us leave.
Christopher, we really need to touch base. If you like, please get back to me. If you want, you can read what I'm working on right now - "The Shadow World."