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Totally agree. I made a principle over 20 years ago that I was going to be free of monthly payments as far as humanly possible. You give up a certain amount of freedom whenever you contract to a monthly or even yearly payment or re-payment. I would not be a slave to a mortgage or even monthly bills for anything that I could do without paying for if things went South financially. So I built my own little house on five acres that I paid cash for, not fancy, but meets all the needs that are important to me. I built up a solar electric system so there is no monthly electric bill. I collect, store and purify my own water and have a burn pit so there is no utility bill, all vehicles I have owned I paid cash or trade for so no vehicle payments. I do my own research on health issues and keep on hand a large selection of first aid, herbs for many conditions and supplements and do not have health insurance for the corrupt medical sickness business model. One sour note is that getting allodial title today is almost impossible and we are stuck with a yearly rental to the "state" for our homes, but at least I moved to where this extortion is at a minimum. When I am doing well financially I add to my physical assets, when I have a bad month I don't worry because all my needs are still being met and I can sleep soundly at night. This has worked well with my investment in volatile bitcoin as I can coast when it dumps and buy when it pumps, while it steadily far outpaces the dying dollar.

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May I quote this, or portions thereof, in an upcoming post?

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certainly!

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Sounds pretty decent all the way around. I built a small cabin on 5 wooded acres about 50 years ago. 20 years later I sold it because I didn't have extra funds to improve it. It was some 230 miles from where I was living and working. I see now that it is still standing and has electric and running water and heat. I sometimes wish now I still had it but I doubt my wife would like to move there permanently if I did.

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Hat, disregard Klauss. 'Own research on health issues' matches well with the intent of the article (sovereignty and home ownership). Sovereignty over your body is equivalent to not outsourcing your health to outside agency. Kudos to you.

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In my view most health care professionals will not care so much for your individual health issues as you do, also being part of a very corrupt system almost all of them are subject to the business model of addressing symptoms with toxic patented medications and suppressing cheap natural preventative and nutritional approaches that address underlying causes. While I do not own a lab or do much in the way of original 'research' which may be what Klaus meant. What I meant is that I have found a few honest health experts that I have found can offer natural cures and information on specific health issues that I have had and treated successfully with special supplements, nutritional approaches, herbs and other modalities, (light therapy, attitudinal and spiritual corrections, sound, chiropractic, eastern medicine and energy work, homopathic etc.) This is all just taking personal responsibility for your health. I don't blame, nor would I put myself in the position of relying on the treatments prescribed by the allopathic practicioners paid for by "health" insurance companies. I have had a number of fairly serious health issues at one time or another and have quickly healed or ameliorated the effects quite successfully for a tiny fraction of the cost and no debt. Haven't seen an allopathic professional for decades and am healthy and fit at 80.

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well said.

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Well said

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I am hundred percent with you, my sentence was incomplete. Sorry. Now it is.

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You are right because my sentence was broken. Now I have fixed it. Solar and health is incompatible.

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“Own research on health issues” does not match well with solar. Otherwise I agree.

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Gotcha. I am looking forward to the time when zero point energy or other bio friendly power options are available. My energy uses are fairly modest and I heat with an insulated black box collector with a couple of computer fans and some supplemental wood heat. It would be nice to live free and healthy without compromises, but for me so far that has not always been possible, but I do the best I can and am always open to better alternatives.

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As far as you put not solar on your roof and stay away from the inverters, you should be good. But I don't like solar very much. You can reach the same with a windmill and batteries.

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My solar is a good little distance away from my house and on the ground with gimballed mounts so I can turn and adjust the panels to follow the sun and thus get much more power with fewer panels than those who mount them on the roof. They are also easier and safer to clean. My inverter, charge controller and batteries are in a battery house some distance away from my house and the power converted to 110 is conducted to it and small gauge wires for control and monitering of the system. My house has thick walls of soil cement and outside with cedar cladding or rock, and two inches of wood on inside. I do not use wifi inside and only shielded ethernet cables for computer. I have shungite, and other crystals and dirty emf ameliorating energy devices. and my house is sunk into the earth and earth bermed on the side toward the 24 volt solar system. I have a separate solar system for my workshed which is several yards from my house, both systems have two big 300 amp hour batteries and their own dedicated panels. The one in the work shed runs my wood working shop and its equipment, and charges my solar powered e-bike which I use for shopping trips and most of my local travel. Either system can run be used to run the other for redundancy or either from a backup generator which I very rarely ever have to use. I had wind power, but found it was noisy, high maintenance and subject to damage from high winds and blade breakage. The solar system is trouble and maintenance free and almost totally silent. I do have one small wind turbine that I keep just for backup.

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"My house has thick walls of soil cement and outside with cedar cladding or rock, and two inches of wood on inside."

—Ooh, I love hearing about alternative construction techniques. Can you tell me more?

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It is my own design. It is very small, only two rooms connected by an archway, a kitchen food prep area and storage including hanging closet, and a bedroom/study with many shelves, two built in desks and a queen sized bed platform. I built one similar to it on public land in Burbank Ca. right behind Universal Studios backlot, and up the street from Warner Brothers studio. It was dug into the side of a heavily wooded area in the right of way of Barham Blvd. I lived there about three years rent free and worked as a background actor. The present cabin consists of two arching roofs shaped like a MacDonalds golden arches. There is a nice covered deck on the North side and the South side is bermed with earth as I mentioned. It is sunk into the earth two feet so you step down when you enter. If I had it to do again I would have built it twice as wide so as to have enough room for a living room and bathroom, but at the time I just wanted to get it finished and move out of a tent. The East and West Walls are very thick, about three feet at the base thinning somewhat at the top the inner wall is ferro concrete with foam board insulation, lined inside with luan mahogany and outside there is a layer of fill with earth and shredded plastic foam then rocked over with slabs of limestone. It has two large windows on the South side in both kitchen and bedroom with enough overhang to keep direct sunlight out in the Summer months but allow it in during the winter for extra solar heat. In one of those amazing synchronicities I got a couple of truck loads of all sizes surplus of lumber and rebar for $200 from a McCoys building supply and used local rock and sand. So I could overbuild.

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Thank you for the excellent description. Yes, wind can be noisy, but around me are many Airmotors and they are not noisy. Also, the subject water is addressed very good by these concepts, and you can do a lot more with these mills if you dive deeper and get more experiences. I like your setup. https://aermotorwindmill.com/

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Thank you Klaus. I have heard of aermotor, they are used in some places here in SW Texas for water wells. And they are pretty durable, but there is wear, there are some which have been damaged by the high winds we sometimes get, and have moving parts which do still take regular maintenance and are not cheap by any means to erect, and what I have presently meets all my needs.

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ty. good to know still available. my old property was restrictive and windmill was not a good option there.

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Klauss, you're not making any sense. You wouldn't happen to be a troll, or chatbot troll now would you?

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Actually Klaus is a very wise man for whom I have the greatest respect. He speaks his mind without hesitation. I am pleased that he honors Christopher with his attention to our group and shares so many of our values.

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Thank you.

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What a BS! As a Bestseller a troll. LOL. What do you not understand?

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Sorry Klaus, my bad.

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No problem!

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Christopher, you are missing so many aspects that I could write a book about this.

Your baseline is correct, but you are missing more facts than you are touching.

I recommend differentiating regarding the property. Many believe condos are property; in my opinion, they aren't. You are enslaved to a community of people (sometimes idiots) you would typically never let into your life. You are subject to assessments out of the blue, like in Florida, which bankrupts thousands, if not millions. So before buying a condo — rent!

Even worse, much worse, are most of the HOAs, a different form of enslavement with gradual differences. Formally, you own your land (mostly), but practically, you don't. Most people never read the bylaws and don't understand this. But in a HOA — even the most relaxed — you are not sovereign and sometimes pay the asshole called developer for your lifetime.

The most free form of property in the US is land with structures kept in fee simple, but you are not free there. You pay property taxes to your enemy (the government) for things you don't want or don't need — like public schools, overblown police, fire rescue, etc. But not only this. If your slave master gets the idea that he requires (parts of) your property, he crosses your life via eminent domain.

That's all?

No, the idiots and criminals called “government” have much more mighty tools to harass you called zoning and building codes. Zoning strips you of many of your rights, especially in so-called “residential” areas. You are not allowed to raise animals, build fences, or use your land as you want. Building codes harass you not to use building material you want, to use material you can't afford (the hurricane bullshit in coastal areas), and and and …

The most significant degree of freedom you can achieve is buying agricultural land that is out of the reach of government and developer interests.

But in the US, property barely exists if you understand all its limitations. And I have just scratched the surface here. US property is an interesting form of investment with minimal property rights.

Sure, it is better than renting. But you must see and understand the whole picture. Many Americans don't, they believe all this BS is good and God given and call the biggest assholes of the government called “Code enforcement”, the all-American Nazis for following the rules of their slaveholders.

Happy New Year to you!

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Agreed on all that. Could not cover it all in a single piece. We have lots of problems with our property rights that need to get solved. But the first step to solving it is owning it, and then (slowly or rapidly) demanding proper respect for that ownership. We cannot fight for ownership if we are not owners.

If it's okay with you, I may cite/note some of what you said here in upcoming posts.

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Excellent post Christopher. Well written. You covered alot of ground with many excellent points about rights connected to land ownership. Klaus made some good points as well that will add to your work. Property taxes are a problem. Look into land patents and mining patents. A land patent is the highest form of ownership s pertains to alluvial title. 'They' stopped issuing land patents in the 1980's I think. Land with a mining patent is available but isn't cheap and usually in remote locations but you generally get alot if acreage. It is possible to bring a patent forward (to the present time) in your name through the public notice process.

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Whoa, this is very interesting. Can you direct me to any particular resources that you like on the subject?

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US Supreme Court rulings regarding land patent being highest form of title.

These days use an alternate search engine to Google. Use a boolean search (example; topic + keyword). Click more about 10 times. Start from the bottom and scroll up.

Seek out old timers who might have had real world experience. Sometimes they have law libraries of their own and can provide guidance. There was a loosely termed movement called the legal reform movement. Anyone who has had to fight back against gov. co. (courts, IRS, etc.) coming at them, would be a resource. Joe Banister, ex IRS agent for example. Many others.

Look for patented mining claims for sale. Loads of them out west. Talk to old time miners.

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This is very interesting stuff. Thank you!!!

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Not exactly on topic of property rights, but important nevertheless.

https://corbettreport.com/interview-1043-meet-alfred-adask-sovereign-citizen/

The Food and Drug laws state their laws and definitions apply to "man or other animals". Alfred states in this interview at 29:20 that it's the foundation for a police state, and at 30:00 it's the cornerstone for the New World Order.

Transcript of interview with Alfred.

https://holisticsurvival.com/alfred-adask-and-a-government-gone-wild/

"I am not an animal", a legal defense used by Alfred Adask in defense of an indictment in Texas. Adask was merely a trustee of a trust that owned a company that the authorities were prosecuting for selling colloidal silver. He never heard from them again.

Mr. Adask himself on the Man or Other Animals clause of the Food and Drug Act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=978KE23MCMg

The actual document:

https://www.scribd.com/document/343668685/The-Work-of-Alfred-Adask-A-Summary-of-Man-or-Other-Animals

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I used to be a bit skeptical that any of these un-jurisdictioning methods could work. But I have recently come around to the belief that there is something there. I will add these to the list. Thanks!

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details...lol

you can fight better as owner...occupying. unoccupied, undeveloped is more, very vulnerable in more & more places.

you cannot change a system from inside it. you don't move into an established HOA & think you will change it, not pay fees, etc.

every owner that has fought has lost.

the only way is rejection, stepping outside it, learn your law & stand as long as you can. these are currently generalized, depersonalized systems built on imbedded policy & contracts, numbers & words. they no longer listen or serve or see people but mass objects.

one of the things ringing in my head from reading the history the other day is the US incorporate law was a "new" form. i have more to read as it was mentioned the same goal of independence & protection could have been accomplished other ways. we keep getting played. english common law & natural principles may be claimed & believed but not. if we are going to build, create new it cannot be by "sewing new on to a worn out, threadbare rag". knowledge & wisdom gained, warnings heeded & build with safeguards...

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Sure, you are welcome. And I also just scratched the surface. But — and that is the good thing — there are many ways to retaliate if you know the playbook.

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Very valid points and an accurate picture of the sorry state of property rights in the US. I had to do a lot of research to find one little spot where there were no building codes, permits needed or restrictions on raising animals, gardening, water catchement, or burn restrictions, and very low taxes, (which sadly I can see changing as govs get more desperate and greedy with their strangling of production and the economy). This is because the land is desert and does not have many of the supposed "benefits" of more desireable land. I happen to like deserts though, the peace and serenity, the scenery, plants and animals that call it home. Some like it a bit on the hot side and I am one of them.

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I've rented apartments my entire adult life, and I wasn't triggered at all by your thoughts on ownership. As other commenters have noted, I doubt true ownership exists where you essentially rent your property from the government, in the form of property taxes, the nonpayment of which can be used as legal justification to evict you from your allegedly owned property.

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Right. True allodial title is legally denied for us. So we will own anyway, and fight for our allodial rights over generations if we have to. We will outlast them. Or our grandchildren will. Whatever it takes. Someone needs to be the pioneer.

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I "knew" that ownership was better than renting, but did not understand the full implication before reading this article. I also did not realize how much our governments (local, state, and federal) have compromised our ownership rights. This information throws a lot of light on how government should be organized to maximize our freedoms.

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Yes, they are denying us our true ownership rights. So we will have to work on getting those rights respected, even if it takes generations.

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That is why "they" are making it harder and harder to own ones own place. Unaffordable or a life in debt.. just for having a roof over your head, a home..

Should you get your place you will be bogged down with more and more fees, higher and higher taxes and insurances on top of the mortage ... hopefully you'll lose it soon ... thanks to government and Banks with a system run on money.. and if that doesn't work you will be bankrupted by medical.. because you broke your leg or got sick... should that still not do the trick, the IRS can always come in and finish you...

Invisible chains... financial and medical oppression.

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Yes. But that is all the more reason why we cannot give in and let them make us into serfs. We must make it as difficult for them as possible.

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yes & no. what one thinks isn't always so...simple.

i, along with millions in this country, had an owned home devalued by the county for highway building.

it is not only the devaluing that can occur but damage to your structure foundation & even land damage, water flow, etc due to heavy machinery given access to your land by govt for public infrastructure development such as pipelines & extraction interests. you cannot prevent it & you are not bought out. you are supposed to be made right & whole but experience proves that whole is not determined by you.

east palestine

and thousands like it

appalachia

dapl

under the systems we function under an owner is a glorified tenant with rent controls who gets to repair & keep the property to standards set & determined by someone else.

while I do plan to buy a piece of land I will choose as wisely & informed as possible to suit my purposes. one of those purposes is to use it how i choose knowing that will constantly change.

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Yes. All of this is a serious problem, and governments are all committing serious (moral/natural) crimes by doing this. We have to make it as hard for them as we can. And part of that is by not letting them, and their buddies at black🪨 turn us into a class of renter-serfs.

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I completely agree...for the younger amongst us. At my age, ownership is far too expensive and the upkeep unmanageable. Maybe owning a piece of property could work, but then I can't do much with it. Anything that's not in the deep boonies is priced outrageously. It's just the practical reality of aging and not being in the top 50%.

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Yes, some of these messages must be directed at younger and future generations. For my part, I would like to get a larger piece of land while I still have at least some strength left in my bones, and then pass it on to the next generation.

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i figure i got 13 good yrs left so my goal is to find a place coz i cant afford to exist as most do.

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Somewhere a bit more rural?

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yes. off the electric grid. while I like electricity the control of the "grid" & requirement to always be subject to it when it doesnt need to be that way is where i really began all of this in the 80's. my dad wanted to homestead so he influenced me too. i don't want what most people want. i can't afford it on any level.

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Sounds great!

Wind and solar are the most common, but if one has a creek with a reasonable amount of drop, one can also do hydro. I like that option too.

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In the late 80’s i researched solar/wind options for my small yard. there were several options AVAILABLE. I liked the one that looked like a small tree and collected both wind & solar thru the “leaves”. Even in the grey days of winter in ohio & my yard i had enough breeze, if located properly to pretty much power my small house.

it was 6k. it isnt available & i couldnt even find any reference to anything like it…except big models as experimental, being tried. not nearly as eye appealing or realistic or plentiful “leaves”. sarcastically i wonder why that is.

yes, i want water source on property & would use hydro as well. i am a “and” person vs a either/or.

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Yes, AND is good!!

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Alloidal is no small feat

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So true. But that must be our goal. So we need to start working towards it. Maybe it will take a generation or more. All the more reason to get rolling!

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Thank you for this insight, Chris! Very valuable and I agree.

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Hey Car, why am I not surprised that you chimed in on this one 🤣🤣🔥❤️

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You got it !! Agree! As to buying cash great unless it's an investment then Mortgage / or Loan way to go to create a Spread!! Take Loan, make cash flow, refi and do it again.... lol

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Or buy a whole dying town and repopulate it. Or buy 600 acres cheap and subdivide it and build a decentralized kingdom. Those are probably outside of your normal bailiwick, though 🤣

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that right there, abandoned towns, is something i have considered & will look into more as i go! old abandoned motels. with adverse possession processes buying might not be required. i will be exploring!

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Please let me know what else you come up with.

As a property owner, I don't love adverse possession. For example, I have 20 acres in Montana, in the middle of nowhere. I have been keeping it for my own reasons since 1993. I have not done anything with it but I do plan to either sell it and use the proceeds to buy a different piece of land closer to family, or move there someday. If someone were to squat on it and take it from me, it would ruin that. The fact that I have this piece of land is not preventing anyone else from living or owning or anything. So that hardly seems fair.

Adverse possession on government land? LOVE THAT. But on private, not so much.

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I understand totally your objection & concern as i shared them when I 1st heard of it, but I listened & then looked into it a little. of course there is the negative connotation of adverse that I had to understand & look past.

ethically done & as originally intended it is a way to assume ownership of totally abandoned property. as with anything buzzards, erm vulture capitalists, erm investors, erm there are opportunists who exploit. some i am aware of are real estate agents.

there is lots of abandoned property, once developed, that is sitting, abandoned, rotting, taxes owed, no heirs or other reasons and the state cant do anything with it for a certain amount of time.

in the instance like your parents there are legitimate reasons for such disputes and often petty.

it is a legitimate means to acquire property, just as tax sales, in ways more secure if done ethically as it requires occupation & time. often there is a 10 yr period to acquire the deed. as with anything, i have heard there are ways to shorten that time. depends on the pathway set out on.

plz look into it a little before continuing to discount it. too many good people lose legitimate options & opportunities due to our ignorance which only benefits predators & those who dont have our interests.

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I LOVE THAT, actually! Hmmm, create a kingdom? Love that.

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If you have any ideas on the subject, please do share!

Did I ever tell you about the minor land subdivision I did when I was 25?

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Sadly, especially in Canada, the damage may take decades to fix.

I will always hold our government responsible for those that will never stand a hope in hell of owning property, & for those that lost everything because of ridiculous mandates. It prevented those who wanted to work from earning a living. They were paid to stay at home & are now forced to pay it back. Makes no sense. But let's all buy a house!!!

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All governments are morally impermissible. Canada's has been especially wicked of late!

I hope you are wrong about the timeline—I hope things can at least be partially put right sooner.

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I work for a Massachusetts based corporation and they take taxes out at the source, directly from my employer. I don't like funding socialism so I'm switching companies.

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Kudos for taking a stand!

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Hi Christopher, I tried using substack chat to resolve the problem with the "like" issue and they suggested clearing all my cache and cookies. Unfortunately when I did this it created a huge problem for me. I have now lost my yahoo.com email account which I have held for over twenty years, and my subscription to your substack. Yahoo now insists on two factor authentication which I will not give them and your substack now requires a password or a passcode sent to my yahoo.com account which I can no longer access without giving them two factor authentication which I won't do for my own privacy reasons. I don't have your email which is why I am putting this as a comment on one of your posts to let you know what happened. My private email address is hatbailey at protonmail dot com. I tried to resubscribe to your substack on the yearly plan but now they won't accept my prepaid visa card for that which sometimes happens.

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I will handle the subscription aspect—I will make sure you are properly comped for all that.

And maybe I can help with the email somehow.

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What about doing the two-factor just to get access to your email so you can save it and then close it down?

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No I won't do that, then Alphabet will still have a unique private identifier for me which I don't want. I used that address for a number of my transactions because they don't have any such info. I knew that would happen one day, I just wish I had saved an email from my Mom who passed away many years ago and a few other things. I will have a hassle with my facebook account also now and getting my new email out to my many contacts.

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I just sent you a Protonmail email.

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Yes I received it and have sent you a reply. Don't sweat it Christopher I never blame anyone else for a mess I make myself when I don't follow the heart messages I receive. You have been nothing but caring and helpful to me from the beginning.

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Oh my goodness, I am SO sorry. I helped open this can of worms. I wish I hadn't!

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Wow, after taking responsibility for my mistake the Divine Presence helped me, I just accidentally got back into my Yahoo account somehow! Yahoo! Such little miracles are a sign from the DP that there is nothing to forgive.

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Oh man, this is great! Save everything. Do all the things you need to do!

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Will do, a great wakeup call for me for which I give thanks.

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🩷❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🖤🩶🤍🤎

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Christopher, this is a home you can build yourself with materials excavated from your land. It requires very little lumber, only for framing the windows and doors. Windproof and fireproof. Could be combined with a faraday cage. Engineered plans are available. Comes in two sizes.

http://mail.calearth.org/building-designs/eco-dome.html

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Thank you! I love learning about construction techniques/ideas.

I started reading recently about earthbag building. I got excited, but then I read one analysis saying that it retains moisture in cold climates. Something about the difference between insulation and thermal mass. But that was just one analysis, I suppose. I am definitely intrigued.

I have also been thinking about getting one of those metal arched buildings and converting it…

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Good idea. KISS, keep it simple stupid (not you).

I lived outdoors once (homefree not homeless). We bought a dog run kit (plastic coated cable strung between two trees) and bought Costco heavy duty tarps (two 12x16 tarps) and laced them together to form an A-frame.

We had two tents, one for storage, one for sleeping. At the other end, we had a full kitchen with table and chairs. We slept on a magnet mattress that I carted into the woods. This was in Californian on BLM land (can stay in one place for 30 days) and Forest Service Land (supposed to move 20+ miles away every 14 days). We stayed up to six weeks in one location.

We planted a garden, and discovered that living next to running water was the best most healthiest living arrangement one could wish for.

We hired dogs to protect us from mountain lions, bears, and bigfoot and to gaurd our camp while we were away (me working, her shopping).

It was the best experience of our lives, even though it was stressful at the time.

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That is one of the many things I love about Substack—the people here are not ordinary. Cool story!

I have done a lot of sleeping outside myself. Two summers traveling Montana and sleeping in a tent. One more summer building a house in the middle of nowhere in Montana, and sleeping in a tent. A couple of years living on a schoolie. And then if you add in the fact that I slept on the porch for the second half of high school, it's even longer. (The porch was uncovered, and I built a system out of polyethylene sheets and a huge packing box, to keep the rain and snow off of me.)

Methinks that some part of us craves absolute freedom, and this was a way to get closer to it…

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You sound like me, methinks. I have that wanderlust for sure. I am on the east coast now. People here are more mature than the west as evidenced by their driving etiquette.

The police are actually super friendly. There isn't a copper around every corner waiting to bust you like out west. People out here pretty much regulate themselves. And with gun ownership very prevalent, everyone treats each other respectfully.

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"You sound like me, methinks. I have that wanderlust for sure."

—I definitely had it. But now I just want roots somewhere. Preferably on a huge piece of land!

I think some of what you are saying about east and west depends on where one is. Lots of crazy drivers in central Connecticut. Lots of cops in Massachusetts. Are you maybe further south?

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North. The Live Free or Die state.

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Christopher, see Volume 5: Property

https://famguardian.org/PublishedAuthors/Indiv/AdaskAlfred/AlfredAdask.htm

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Thanks! What’s the overall topic?

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Property law generally and property ownership. Pretty comprehensive.

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I have added the link to the list on this subject. I cannot learn it all now, but it is going in the hopper. Thx again!

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But Schwab says we will own nothing and be happy! Just kidding. Obviously the opposite is best for us!

Great Chapter and topic Christopher and many excellent and insightful comments!

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😆🔥🩷

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Imagine if We could own everything We use - from home to vehicle to appliances to... Whatever else We might use (provided We did not steal it). That is My aim for Humanity.

Own What You Use (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/own-what-you-use

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