I'm here on substack because I want to buy an island for free folk. I've been looking at this from many angles and I think an exit is necessary.
It's important to understand the structure of a problem so that you can surmount it. I too am in problem solving mode, it seems like we have spent enough time on the structure of the problem. For me it is time to make moves that at least provide breathing room from the political morass surrounding us.
I looked this up. It’s either a bank, credit union, financial group, or a community in Roatan? I’m assuming you’re talking about the community in Roatan?
No, but I heard a talk on something similar. It was a proposal for a community where it provides for itself through mutual aid. People either paid in, or offered their time. A way to cut out the middle man, also known as "representative government." Just regular folks doing regular stuff, trading and living life. Kind of like communism always pretends to do but the only shared values they have is violence. And peace at the price of compliance.
That is possible now, though government will want its cut.
So it seems to me that there are three possibilities: fight with the state, negotiate for secession or special status, or accept the state’s overlordship and try to operate as independently as possible. Did I miss anything there?
“People have to choose, as individuals, whether they want to (1) stay in the corrupt modern corporate statutory system, (2) continue individual amateur (sovereign citizen) experiments by trial and error with frequent retaliation from that system, or (3) choose to let real Sovereign Institutions of the original Magna Carta Common Law system of the Freedom Jurisdiction share its own authorities to give solutions.
The third choice refers to the Knights Templar, the original Law-Givers of the Magna Carta, which created the Common Law.
They established lawful Sovereignty which is necessary to protect us, so we can restore the Golden Age Institutions necessary to operate the independent Common Law system again.”
I find this to be a feasible solution and continuing my study of what they have built so far in terms of an IGO at the level of the United Nations.
Glad to have found your stack and look forward to your book as it unfolds.
I too am glad to meet you, and happy we are on the same team!
So let me ask you, though—why is method three any less likely to invite retaliation than method two? Why would it carry more weight with the statists and their enforcers?
I am still learning, but the short answer is that IVU was created using existing rules:
The official status of IVU and its IGO official bodies is established directly from the modern framework of conventions recognizing international law, which are binding upon all countries (1969 Law of Treaties, Article 38), and also binding upon the United Nations (UN) (2012 Declaration on Rule of Law, Article 2).
Accordingly, IVU already possesses the only “recognition” it needs, directly from specific provisions of conventional international law, which fully prove its official status and authorities.
Have either of you read, “Live Not By Lies?” I’ve had the “reciprocal community@ idea floating around in my mind for about 2 years now. Of course, I’ve always been a bit of a revolutionary. Most of my adult life I had the dream of living on a compound with just my husband and children. I guess I passed this dream in to my son because he made it come true for us 3 years ago. We now call it a homestead 😉 Everyone lives here except my oldest daughter ( I keep praying). There are 10 of us ages 5 through 69. Huge garden, lots of animals, and living my dream. It’s really hard though. Some still have to hold jobs which leaves the work to the few of us who are mostly kids. I try to talk to my church groups about creating a community outside of church but I don’t really know how to start it or explain it so it interests them.
I haven't, but I will look into it. I love this comment 😄 I have lived in different communities all over the US for the past 30 years, looking for a fit. I never found one, but I learned a lot! What not to do and what works. My favorite was too dogmatic in their religious beliefs, but they had a wonderful business model and thriving community. We worked really hard and ate really wholesome food. It almost had it all. Well I love the concept and I love hearing about yours, Mimi 💖 Thank you.
Just this evening i learned of the Free State Project:
The Free State Project is a movement of thousands of freedom-loving people to New Hampshire.
Already, there are thousands of individuals just like you right here in New Hampshire. Together, Free Staters have built an incredible, real-life community full of people who value liberty and responsibility.
Yeah, the FSP really has begun to transform NH somewhat. Still a long way to go, but it is working. If I didn't have family/location commitments, I would consider it myself.
Because I have to do this book in order, there will be a WHY section that will have to repeat some of the arguments I have already been making. I will keep them as concise as possible.
This is necessary to establish the case, and a record of that case, which must be a part of this project's documentation, if that makes sense. But the refresher will be instructive for all of us, especially since I am going to try to boil it down to its most important essentials.
I will do that as briefly as I can in Part 1, and then the good stuff is coming!
"An endless pitched battle, where we lose a little more ground, year after year, decade after decade? And when our shield arm finally tires, to simply pass the task to them, and they to their children, forever? Is that all there is?"
Yes. That is all there is. It's the nature, aim, and purpose of the battle that makes it true. To your point and where I agree is that it shouldn't be a superfluous political battle that only hides the true sociological dysfunctions. You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present. Even if the society is perfect as perfect goes there is still the battle of mortality and that is an ancient human problem that does not falter in the slightest. The battle with mortality can cause the downfall of nations and elimination of cultures as we saw in the transfer from Lenin to Stalin. The battle with mortality is the battle with the greatest unknown known to us. And if we can unify as one against it we are in the proper position. What does that look like? Heaven in my opinion. Not somewhere you go with angelic things. But a place in everyone's mind that knew you and they believe you're in a place with angelic things therefore you are since what we believe and think we manifest such is the magic of the human psyche. That's the fight against mortality because it eases the inevitable. That fight is what creates reality is what creates consciousness is what creates creativity it is the all-consuming ever-producing paradox of perception. That fight has true meaning because it's defining the world around us since mortality is the world around us as we operate off the ideas and structures of the dead. Anything less or more than that is a battle of preference compared to the cosmic cycles of life and death essentially transformation. Anyway. Thats my opinion. As always. I appreciate your work.
Thanks, AH. What you say makes sense on a broader level. My metaphor (in the excerpt you cited) is somewhat more narrowly targeted.
But I love this: "You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present."
What a great article, and awesome reply there AH. This is why I love substack, you won't get dialogue like this on faceplant or twitler, no siree. Not to mention the bots and trolls you'll endure.
In the computer field there's a concept of 'defining done'. The goal is to eliminate 'scope creep'. Even your aforementioned last book is a constant work in progress. Hopefully the end goal is not trying to create the perfect utopian world. Perhaps it is the struggle itself that is ideal.
Like most things, it's probably finding that sweet spot somewhere in the middle.
Very thought-provoking conversation! In my perspective, it is true right now that "You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present." And I'd add, not just the stagnation, but the active dehumanization and control down to the cellular level--a complete removal of freedom. That is true right now, in our current situation. But to me it will not always be so, because "what we believe and think we manifest." The fight we are in is to believe in and own that capacity, and to use it to collectively manifest the world we want to live in, instead of continually recreating this dystopian reality. What we are fighting, on the deeper level, is our own set of beliefs about who and what we are, which are being programmed and conditioned into us every second. Once we realize that we are far more powerful than the forces that are trying to control us, we will not be plagued by fear of death (a big part of the conditioning) and can cease to allow it to frame our understanding of life. Thanks for the opportunity to think and express.
Bingo Betsy! I hope that this human awakening will overcome the need to continue to battle the last conflict, and propel us to understandings that make the fight moot.
Go ahead and give her a rip. I don't think mankind is evolved enough to give up his vanities and arrogance. Most people are indoctrinated to be part of the gang and play follow the leader. And 99%of the time the leaders are power hungry retards.
First the commenters here can serve as alpha readers or editors. You may get some snark from some but overall such could be a valuable tool. For example in my read now I looked for typos, I didn't find any but if I had; for example if you'd written 'For the last 18 months here at the Freedom Snale, ' instead of scale. You'd need only copy the sentence, using 'find' on your manuscript it'd take you right there to correct it.
Second if you decide to self publish instead of offer it to a house, look in to such as https://www.lulu.com/ . Lulu's not the only shop in town either.
Yeah, people are fee to catch any typos they like. I cannot afford a live-in editor, and though I worked as an editor for many years, no one catches everything. Especially when writing daily.
That said, I am showing Scale rather than Snale. That is very weird…
Even more important will be people's ideas. I have a lot of good thoughts in my head, but I cannot think of everything.
Everyone is looking for a solution , without understanding the problem.
“You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present.”
Why is the focus on the future? What is a “better” future? Better relative to what? Is there anything wrong with fixing the present? Why is the present fucked up? What did you do to fuck it up? Did you vote for Trump? Did you vote for Biden? We’ve had both and both were fucked up, so it must be that you voted. You keep selecting ne’er-do-wells as your masters and expect the future to be better. As long as there are people who think they know how to make things better, things will only get worse
Some look to the past as a solution for the future. “If we could just get back to the good old days, things would be better.” “If we would just follow the constitution.” To quote Lysander Spooner, “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain --- that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.”
I saw an article on Vox saying that if Trump got elected it would mean the end of the 1st amendment. How far up this guy’s ass has he had his head for the last four years? The constitution is useless for protecting rights. As long as the government is the final arbiter of its own behavior, there is no hope of anything getting better.
When do we get to live in the sunshine? When you get up and walk outside and there is light at the end of the rabbit hole, the jaborwocky of ego must be slayed and our imperious nature as pleasure and comfort seeking skinsacks full of soul and wonder that we keep caged. Our kids deserve to say in the future hey they said enough of this shit.
You already are! You use such simple, grounded speech. A good dose of optimism. Reminds me of the old Venus Project in spirit. There’s sobering realities, but a potentially exciting future. Again, well-grounded in wording and concept.
You do not need to go down rabbit holes when the rabbits emerge every hour. And it is turtles all the way down!
The rabbit holes just freak me out at this point. No matter how much you learn, there's always another blind alley right around the corner.
I'm here on substack because I want to buy an island for free folk. I've been looking at this from many angles and I think an exit is necessary.
It's important to understand the structure of a problem so that you can surmount it. I too am in problem solving mode, it seems like we have spent enough time on the structure of the problem. For me it is time to make moves that at least provide breathing room from the political morass surrounding us.
Yep. 💯
Have you heard of Prospéra?
I looked this up. It’s either a bank, credit union, financial group, or a community in Roatan? I’m assuming you’re talking about the community in Roatan?
Yep, that's the one! It's not the whole island, and it is not fully sovereign/independent, but it is a start!
No, but I heard a talk on something similar. It was a proposal for a community where it provides for itself through mutual aid. People either paid in, or offered their time. A way to cut out the middle man, also known as "representative government." Just regular folks doing regular stuff, trading and living life. Kind of like communism always pretends to do but the only shared values they have is violence. And peace at the price of compliance.
Love it!
That is possible now, though government will want its cut.
So it seems to me that there are three possibilities: fight with the state, negotiate for secession or special status, or accept the state’s overlordship and try to operate as independently as possible. Did I miss anything there?
Let me look into that. I believe I saved the link.
I recently saw the choices expressed as:
“People have to choose, as individuals, whether they want to (1) stay in the corrupt modern corporate statutory system, (2) continue individual amateur (sovereign citizen) experiments by trial and error with frequent retaliation from that system, or (3) choose to let real Sovereign Institutions of the original Magna Carta Common Law system of the Freedom Jurisdiction share its own authorities to give solutions.
The third choice refers to the Knights Templar, the original Law-Givers of the Magna Carta, which created the Common Law.
They established lawful Sovereignty which is necessary to protect us, so we can restore the Golden Age Institutions necessary to operate the independent Common Law system again.”
I find this to be a feasible solution and continuing my study of what they have built so far in terms of an IGO at the level of the United Nations.
Glad to have found your stack and look forward to your book as it unfolds.
I too am glad to meet you, and happy we are on the same team!
So let me ask you, though—why is method three any less likely to invite retaliation than method two? Why would it carry more weight with the statists and their enforcers?
I am still learning, but the short answer is that IVU was created using existing rules:
The official status of IVU and its IGO official bodies is established directly from the modern framework of conventions recognizing international law, which are binding upon all countries (1969 Law of Treaties, Article 38), and also binding upon the United Nations (UN) (2012 Declaration on Rule of Law, Article 2).
Accordingly, IVU already possesses the only “recognition” it needs, directly from specific provisions of conventional international law, which fully prove its official status and authorities.
Some very interesting reading here: https://ignitaveritasunited.org/international-law/
Have either of you read, “Live Not By Lies?” I’ve had the “reciprocal community@ idea floating around in my mind for about 2 years now. Of course, I’ve always been a bit of a revolutionary. Most of my adult life I had the dream of living on a compound with just my husband and children. I guess I passed this dream in to my son because he made it come true for us 3 years ago. We now call it a homestead 😉 Everyone lives here except my oldest daughter ( I keep praying). There are 10 of us ages 5 through 69. Huge garden, lots of animals, and living my dream. It’s really hard though. Some still have to hold jobs which leaves the work to the few of us who are mostly kids. I try to talk to my church groups about creating a community outside of church but I don’t really know how to start it or explain it so it interests them.
Sounds wonderful!
I haven't, but I will look into it. I love this comment 😄 I have lived in different communities all over the US for the past 30 years, looking for a fit. I never found one, but I learned a lot! What not to do and what works. My favorite was too dogmatic in their religious beliefs, but they had a wonderful business model and thriving community. We worked really hard and ate really wholesome food. It almost had it all. Well I love the concept and I love hearing about yours, Mimi 💖 Thank you.
Just this evening i learned of the Free State Project:
The Free State Project is a movement of thousands of freedom-loving people to New Hampshire.
Already, there are thousands of individuals just like you right here in New Hampshire. Together, Free Staters have built an incredible, real-life community full of people who value liberty and responsibility.
https://www.fsp.org/
Yeah, the FSP really has begun to transform NH somewhat. Still a long way to go, but it is working. If I didn't have family/location commitments, I would consider it myself.
I’ll look forward to the next issue. Hopefully it will be short on ‘blame’ (that’s a dead end) and stuffed full of practical, actionable ideas.
Because I have to do this book in order, there will be a WHY section that will have to repeat some of the arguments I have already been making. I will keep them as concise as possible.
This is necessary to establish the case, and a record of that case, which must be a part of this project's documentation, if that makes sense. But the refresher will be instructive for all of us, especially since I am going to try to boil it down to its most important essentials.
I will do that as briefly as I can in Part 1, and then the good stuff is coming!
"An endless pitched battle, where we lose a little more ground, year after year, decade after decade? And when our shield arm finally tires, to simply pass the task to them, and they to their children, forever? Is that all there is?"
Yes. That is all there is. It's the nature, aim, and purpose of the battle that makes it true. To your point and where I agree is that it shouldn't be a superfluous political battle that only hides the true sociological dysfunctions. You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present. Even if the society is perfect as perfect goes there is still the battle of mortality and that is an ancient human problem that does not falter in the slightest. The battle with mortality can cause the downfall of nations and elimination of cultures as we saw in the transfer from Lenin to Stalin. The battle with mortality is the battle with the greatest unknown known to us. And if we can unify as one against it we are in the proper position. What does that look like? Heaven in my opinion. Not somewhere you go with angelic things. But a place in everyone's mind that knew you and they believe you're in a place with angelic things therefore you are since what we believe and think we manifest such is the magic of the human psyche. That's the fight against mortality because it eases the inevitable. That fight is what creates reality is what creates consciousness is what creates creativity it is the all-consuming ever-producing paradox of perception. That fight has true meaning because it's defining the world around us since mortality is the world around us as we operate off the ideas and structures of the dead. Anything less or more than that is a battle of preference compared to the cosmic cycles of life and death essentially transformation. Anyway. Thats my opinion. As always. I appreciate your work.
Thanks, AH. What you say makes sense on a broader level. My metaphor (in the excerpt you cited) is somewhat more narrowly targeted.
But I love this: "You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present."
What a great article, and awesome reply there AH. This is why I love substack, you won't get dialogue like this on faceplant or twitler, no siree. Not to mention the bots and trolls you'll endure.
In the computer field there's a concept of 'defining done'. The goal is to eliminate 'scope creep'. Even your aforementioned last book is a constant work in progress. Hopefully the end goal is not trying to create the perfect utopian world. Perhaps it is the struggle itself that is ideal.
Like most things, it's probably finding that sweet spot somewhere in the middle.
Definitely won't be utopian. It will be aspirational, though.
Very thought-provoking conversation! In my perspective, it is true right now that "You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present." And I'd add, not just the stagnation, but the active dehumanization and control down to the cellular level--a complete removal of freedom. That is true right now, in our current situation. But to me it will not always be so, because "what we believe and think we manifest." The fight we are in is to believe in and own that capacity, and to use it to collectively manifest the world we want to live in, instead of continually recreating this dystopian reality. What we are fighting, on the deeper level, is our own set of beliefs about who and what we are, which are being programmed and conditioned into us every second. Once we realize that we are far more powerful than the forces that are trying to control us, we will not be plagued by fear of death (a big part of the conditioning) and can cease to allow it to frame our understanding of life. Thanks for the opportunity to think and express.
Bingo Betsy! I hope that this human awakening will overcome the need to continue to battle the last conflict, and propel us to understandings that make the fight moot.
🤎🖤🤍
A worthy project, to say the least -- looking forward to more!
Thanks, DL! I will be publishing installments regularly.
Go ahead and give her a rip. I don't think mankind is evolved enough to give up his vanities and arrogance. Most people are indoctrinated to be part of the gang and play follow the leader. And 99%of the time the leaders are power hungry retards.
All true. But we have to try. We have to get started sometime. And if it has to be a generational project, then so be it.
Some thoughts:
First the commenters here can serve as alpha readers or editors. You may get some snark from some but overall such could be a valuable tool. For example in my read now I looked for typos, I didn't find any but if I had; for example if you'd written 'For the last 18 months here at the Freedom Snale, ' instead of scale. You'd need only copy the sentence, using 'find' on your manuscript it'd take you right there to correct it.
Second if you decide to self publish instead of offer it to a house, look in to such as https://www.lulu.com/ . Lulu's not the only shop in town either.
Yeah, people are fee to catch any typos they like. I cannot afford a live-in editor, and though I worked as an editor for many years, no one catches everything. Especially when writing daily.
That said, I am showing Scale rather than Snale. That is very weird…
Even more important will be people's ideas. I have a lot of good thoughts in my head, but I cannot think of everything.
Thanks for the lulu recommendation!
"That said, I am showing Scale rather than Snale. That is very weird…"
Not really you didn't read what I said. Grin.
Aha! Yeah, I move too fast sometimes…
Everyone is looking for a solution , without understanding the problem.
“You're either fighting for a better future on all the aspects one can manage or you're submitting yourself to the stagnation of the present.”
Why is the focus on the future? What is a “better” future? Better relative to what? Is there anything wrong with fixing the present? Why is the present fucked up? What did you do to fuck it up? Did you vote for Trump? Did you vote for Biden? We’ve had both and both were fucked up, so it must be that you voted. You keep selecting ne’er-do-wells as your masters and expect the future to be better. As long as there are people who think they know how to make things better, things will only get worse
Some look to the past as a solution for the future. “If we could just get back to the good old days, things would be better.” “If we would just follow the constitution.” To quote Lysander Spooner, “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain --- that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.”
I saw an article on Vox saying that if Trump got elected it would mean the end of the 1st amendment. How far up this guy’s ass has he had his head for the last four years? The constitution is useless for protecting rights. As long as the government is the final arbiter of its own behavior, there is no hope of anything getting better.
I think you already know that I agree with pretty much all of that 🤣
I wonder if we will come to the same conclusion? Look forward to finding out....
Me toooo!
Starting to see a lot more for sale signs around here....
where is here?
Sorry. I forgot I was on my phone account, under my really, real name 😂 still E TN my friend.
Ahhhhh. I had no idea!
Guess you’re not a fed………..😂 I kid, I kid
When do we get to live in the sunshine? When you get up and walk outside and there is light at the end of the rabbit hole, the jaborwocky of ego must be slayed and our imperious nature as pleasure and comfort seeking skinsacks full of soul and wonder that we keep caged. Our kids deserve to say in the future hey they said enough of this shit.
❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🤍🖤
Baby steps- https://open.substack.com/pub/lizlasorte/p/a-modest-proposal-part-iii-what-were?r=76q58&utm_medium=ios
I may cite this when I get to the appropriate part of Part 1.
All our children/g-children are counting on you for ways out of this mess- no pressure!!
LOL!
I am already putting a ton of pressure on myself, but I can always stand a little more, to make me move faster. Bring it on!
Everything runs on Agreements . . .
critical feature of this is how is it that any given agreement is to be enforced?
Good question. A lot of this is gonna get answered coming up. But just so I know, what sort of agreement are you referring to here?
Here we go. Time to go down one more rabbit hole.
I'll try to make it a good one!
You already are! You use such simple, grounded speech. A good dose of optimism. Reminds me of the old Venus Project in spirit. There’s sobering realities, but a potentially exciting future. Again, well-grounded in wording and concept.
Thank you!
We have to stay excited. Despair gets us nowhere.
Facts
This is a great start! Your writing is terrific. I look forward to reading more.
Thanks! I just dropped the first part of the intro: https://christophercook.substack.com/p/time-chart-new-course-distributed-nation
I will keep cranking as hard as I can!
Thesis a great use of Substack.write here and use the online editorial base!
Substack is an amazing place!
An excellent start.
Thanks—I will try to live up to it. 🤣