I like it. Although I still think Thou shall not steal is simply another way of stating the same thing. The moment you try to steal anything from me, anything at all, you are invading my fortress and thus will feel the wrath of my response. I am not Jesus, I am not the devil, but fuck with me and you’ll be praying for one or the other to come for you. ❤️
Before force of any kind is considered, the first level of defense is economic. IF you do this, we will refuse to trade with you. And violence is committed by individuals, not kingdoms. Who will you burn? And who then is justified in burning your loved ones? Does everyone whose countries have been harmed (a mild term, that) by US politician warmongers have the right to put a target on my back?
In indigenous matrix cultures, a wrong done by an individual would cause the entire tribe to offer reparations, often symbolic, but showing that they would take responsibility for their own. This was self-preservation from the other tribe's retaliation, but also showing that it's a failure of the whole, that needs to be corrected. I'd like to see a return to that responsibility.
If you never want anything from someone else, you never need to manipulate them. Living without the need to be manipulating people or anything else is beyond refreshing. It's living from your true self. People manipulate others because they live in constant fear of losing something or perhaps the fear of never having enough. It is always a false fear.
Yes, Christopher, I consider Humans require only ONE negative moral rule which ousts all would-be rulers, and as you wrote above, it is the Non-Aggression Principle, NAP, which everyone must take once slapped awake from the Nightmare of History (first use of physical force).
And the NAP must be defined ONLY as THE ABSOLUTE PROHIBITION OF THE FIRST USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE OR DIRECT THREAT THEREOF with the only exception being if such first use of physical force is employed to save a Human Life.
Of course this then, correctly, morally speaking, permits DEFENSIVE, SECONDARY RESPONSIVE USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE FOR PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY.
All the rest of discussion is, for me, would be theologians debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin--except for: How do we justify the NAP?
And as proto Voluntaryist Max Stirner expressed, Might trumps (ugh) Right.
Human Rights are imaginary, religious "Rites". They are not "Natural" or "God given" for me.
The only philosophical foundation for the NAP I consider is Kant's "Universalization".
If every Human on the planet used first physical force on the person next to them, what would be the self-evident result?
What would be the self-evident result if every Human on the planet never used first physical force?
Brilliant! I really enjoyed the discussion about the difference between the objective and subjective. I believe a lot of people get lost in that. I think it boils down to personal property rights for the objective. Subjective: don't be a dick!
Please accept this in the spirit intended. I am sure that By now You certainly realize it.
For hundreds of years there has been an evil despotic regime operating to enslave the planet. They use murder, intimidation, manipulation, coercion, blackmail, bribery and they have amassed immense resources to accomplish their evil ends.
They believe that they OWN everything here on earth. They will do Anything to make humanity bend their collective knees to their whims and proclamations.
IMO 95% of humanity will peacefully coexist with each other and in fact support each other without this evil influence interfering and perverting our existence.
Some people believe that War and mutual destruction is part of human nature. I disagree. These are the tools of these evil bastards at work.
They distort reality and create confusion, conflict and chaos, to distract us and convince us to suspect, hate, and attack each other.
Probably we should define what is freedom first.I think freedom has two aspects, one is personal freedom, we can be in jail or under force slavery but can be free, it is a human right to be intrinsically free, the Creator has gave us that freedom when He gave us “ free will “ and the inherent characteristic of that it’s RESPONSIBILITY and what is that about? The responsibility to choose good over evil ( sadly we have normalized evil so people are confused sometimes). A free man is a man that cannot be bought and that always will choose good. Then we have societal freedom, the freedom named in the constitution and protect it by it, speech, enterprise, move around and wherever I want and persue of any goal that in order to do it I don’t hurt anyone. So, when BLM comes to my downtown and destroy my coffee shop , the movement though they have the freedom to do it it is hurting a small business and me as a customer, that’s not freedom and my conclusion will annoy a lot of people for sure but I have the right to say this, freedom is not for everyone as democracy is not for everyone, you need to have a certain level of maturity and understanding of responsibility among other things. Homes and schools are failing miserably teaching basic citizens civics. In Greece society, not everyone was a citizen, and the system was ruled only by citizens, that was the democratic principle, the rule of the people meaning of the citizens meaning the ones who were qualified.
Probably it would be a good idea that people need to pass an exam before voting or as my husband thinks, only people who pay taxes should vote because that is our money, the one that holds the system but that it has been used to support wars and debauchery all over, how many millions are we sending away and our own people doesn’t have what they need?? But the rulers don’t have morals and that the problem, they don’t care at all about us, they have a big responsibility that comes with power and freedom but they misused for their benefit, why are not in jail? Because it’s a mob, they protect each other that by the way that’s it’s the definition of corporation. I have plenty of hope that if it is a country that can pull it off and resist agenda 2030
Is the United States but the path has to change 180 degrees and people has to get into things deeply or get out of the way. When we put together 2 million signatures to evict Newsom and we got the recall voting Gavin won by 3 millions voting for him, how is that possible? He got 1 million or around and we were more but do you think that really matters, that the minute many became anarchist and lost faith in the system and I understand it, but I don’t think anarchism is the way to go, it’s not practical and Rose said that when people critized him, that he knows it not would be a “ pure” self governance in the beginning because that its impossible. We have built a wonderful civilization, not perfect but still the best we have came up with. Institutions are not the problem, people are. Honor, responsibility, discipline , common good. We have a very short constitution and very effective if we practice it, but we have to exercise goodness and love, not fake love, the love that means Charitas, desire for the good and well beings of others, our selfishness took us to here.
Totally, sadly we are so divided that we cannot have a respectful conversation about politics with anyone anymore, I think propaganda works and we have to try very hard not to fall into narrative, I agree about government power and overreach but I don’t fall for the delusion as libertarians fall ( in spite I would vote Ron or better Randy Paul in a second, i admire them because of their decency, consistency and they speak out about the issues) but the “ market doesn’t regulate itself not in a big scale, the markets are ruled by the banks and the investors and the billionaires, they are the ones who control the economies , I used to have bitcoin but once the big banks started to buy bitcoins I lost interest. So we need a government that start to work for us and protect or legislate that nobody powerful take advantage of US THE PEOPLE, I know I am a dreamer. In my humble opinion ideologies have to die, we have to United for the common good, and use common sense policies and be truthful not deceptive about “ hidden agendas” and that it’s why is so important what do you do and many people do, discuss ideas and expose the falsehood and intentions of these globalists and 2030 agenda and its 17 goals, they are so ridiculous written and they admitted that they can stop poverty in 7 years, so??? We know what cause poverty, we know that with the money we are giving Ukraine we can solve the homeless issue in America, we know that they are criminals and we know that if we don’t defend the second amendment we are done us a country, I say this beca Google and allies are putting in place forms to “ police the thoughts”. The FB CEO said that they respect freedom of speech but what they don’t want is “ the reach of that speech “, and she said it aloud, soft power and canceling you but not openly but mechanically.
I agree and very well explained the concepts of protective force and cohesive force, we cannot all be martyrs. The song is very powerful what make wonder how would it be a world were humans can govern themselves? Because that’s the root of all problems in the world, how do we behave. It’s very simple, a virtuous person has his or her sight in something bigger of themselves, a purpose, and they understand what life is about so their decisions are in that frame of mind . The opposite is what is happening in the world, we are ruled by megalomaniacs , psychopaths and narcissists who believe they are Gods, they really believe it, if you listen to Billy Boy talking is the first thing that is self evident, the guy want to stop the rays from the Sun!!! And he supported an experiment of this kind not other that Sweden!!! So not only he thinks is God but he is an imbecile and I wonder if he has “ sold” his soul already. Zachary King, once the more powerful Satanist Priest worked with him to “ make some things happen “, he is not the only one, the powerful are very religious, wrong God though. He responded to the question if he believes in God “ I don’t have evidence of it”, it looks like the guy has his head in some other part of his body because just to look around the created world and its complexity we know that there’s an intelligence behind everything that exists, we can’t create anything from nothing, if we put together the most genius people in the world they cannot create anything from nothing, we cannot create one atom neither one molecule. Anyway, a pleasure to read your essays.
Hey Chris, I wanted to share this artist with you. You may have heard of him already, he’s from Australia and his music screams freedom to me. Here’s one link, please check out some of his other music when you have time. His album “Storm Boy” is one of my all time favorites.
Agreed. I too would prefer avoiding violence to end violence. I also can’t see another route at this time. Perhaps there are plans afoot to achieve their destruction without violence. Most people would rejoice. Either way. 🙏🇺🇸🙏
I like it. Although I still think Thou shall not steal is simply another way of stating the same thing. The moment you try to steal anything from me, anything at all, you are invading my fortress and thus will feel the wrath of my response. I am not Jesus, I am not the devil, but fuck with me and you’ll be praying for one or the other to come for you. ❤️
Before force of any kind is considered, the first level of defense is economic. IF you do this, we will refuse to trade with you. And violence is committed by individuals, not kingdoms. Who will you burn? And who then is justified in burning your loved ones? Does everyone whose countries have been harmed (a mild term, that) by US politician warmongers have the right to put a target on my back?
In indigenous matrix cultures, a wrong done by an individual would cause the entire tribe to offer reparations, often symbolic, but showing that they would take responsibility for their own. This was self-preservation from the other tribe's retaliation, but also showing that it's a failure of the whole, that needs to be corrected. I'd like to see a return to that responsibility.
If you never want anything from someone else, you never need to manipulate them. Living without the need to be manipulating people or anything else is beyond refreshing. It's living from your true self. People manipulate others because they live in constant fear of losing something or perhaps the fear of never having enough. It is always a false fear.
Yes, Christopher, I consider Humans require only ONE negative moral rule which ousts all would-be rulers, and as you wrote above, it is the Non-Aggression Principle, NAP, which everyone must take once slapped awake from the Nightmare of History (first use of physical force).
And the NAP must be defined ONLY as THE ABSOLUTE PROHIBITION OF THE FIRST USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE OR DIRECT THREAT THEREOF with the only exception being if such first use of physical force is employed to save a Human Life.
Of course this then, correctly, morally speaking, permits DEFENSIVE, SECONDARY RESPONSIVE USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE FOR PROTECTION OF PERSON AND PROPERTY.
All the rest of discussion is, for me, would be theologians debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin--except for: How do we justify the NAP?
And as proto Voluntaryist Max Stirner expressed, Might trumps (ugh) Right.
Human Rights are imaginary, religious "Rites". They are not "Natural" or "God given" for me.
The only philosophical foundation for the NAP I consider is Kant's "Universalization".
If every Human on the planet used first physical force on the person next to them, what would be the self-evident result?
What would be the self-evident result if every Human on the planet never used first physical force?
Throw away your pin. Rule yourself only.
Scire licit. Sapere Aude!
Everything Voluntary, Do No Harm.
Brilliant! I really enjoyed the discussion about the difference between the objective and subjective. I believe a lot of people get lost in that. I think it boils down to personal property rights for the objective. Subjective: don't be a dick!
One rule could be, “Don’t be a jerk."
Please accept this in the spirit intended. I am sure that By now You certainly realize it.
For hundreds of years there has been an evil despotic regime operating to enslave the planet. They use murder, intimidation, manipulation, coercion, blackmail, bribery and they have amassed immense resources to accomplish their evil ends.
They believe that they OWN everything here on earth. They will do Anything to make humanity bend their collective knees to their whims and proclamations.
IMO 95% of humanity will peacefully coexist with each other and in fact support each other without this evil influence interfering and perverting our existence.
Some people believe that War and mutual destruction is part of human nature. I disagree. These are the tools of these evil bastards at work.
They distort reality and create confusion, conflict and chaos, to distract us and convince us to suspect, hate, and attack each other.
NO MORE. They need to be Destroyed.
Then we may see peace on Earth.
🙏🇺🇸🙏
That song is how I feel when someone violates my, or others' free will.
Probably we should define what is freedom first.I think freedom has two aspects, one is personal freedom, we can be in jail or under force slavery but can be free, it is a human right to be intrinsically free, the Creator has gave us that freedom when He gave us “ free will “ and the inherent characteristic of that it’s RESPONSIBILITY and what is that about? The responsibility to choose good over evil ( sadly we have normalized evil so people are confused sometimes). A free man is a man that cannot be bought and that always will choose good. Then we have societal freedom, the freedom named in the constitution and protect it by it, speech, enterprise, move around and wherever I want and persue of any goal that in order to do it I don’t hurt anyone. So, when BLM comes to my downtown and destroy my coffee shop , the movement though they have the freedom to do it it is hurting a small business and me as a customer, that’s not freedom and my conclusion will annoy a lot of people for sure but I have the right to say this, freedom is not for everyone as democracy is not for everyone, you need to have a certain level of maturity and understanding of responsibility among other things. Homes and schools are failing miserably teaching basic citizens civics. In Greece society, not everyone was a citizen, and the system was ruled only by citizens, that was the democratic principle, the rule of the people meaning of the citizens meaning the ones who were qualified.
Probably it would be a good idea that people need to pass an exam before voting or as my husband thinks, only people who pay taxes should vote because that is our money, the one that holds the system but that it has been used to support wars and debauchery all over, how many millions are we sending away and our own people doesn’t have what they need?? But the rulers don’t have morals and that the problem, they don’t care at all about us, they have a big responsibility that comes with power and freedom but they misused for their benefit, why are not in jail? Because it’s a mob, they protect each other that by the way that’s it’s the definition of corporation. I have plenty of hope that if it is a country that can pull it off and resist agenda 2030
Is the United States but the path has to change 180 degrees and people has to get into things deeply or get out of the way. When we put together 2 million signatures to evict Newsom and we got the recall voting Gavin won by 3 millions voting for him, how is that possible? He got 1 million or around and we were more but do you think that really matters, that the minute many became anarchist and lost faith in the system and I understand it, but I don’t think anarchism is the way to go, it’s not practical and Rose said that when people critized him, that he knows it not would be a “ pure” self governance in the beginning because that its impossible. We have built a wonderful civilization, not perfect but still the best we have came up with. Institutions are not the problem, people are. Honor, responsibility, discipline , common good. We have a very short constitution and very effective if we practice it, but we have to exercise goodness and love, not fake love, the love that means Charitas, desire for the good and well beings of others, our selfishness took us to here.
Totally, sadly we are so divided that we cannot have a respectful conversation about politics with anyone anymore, I think propaganda works and we have to try very hard not to fall into narrative, I agree about government power and overreach but I don’t fall for the delusion as libertarians fall ( in spite I would vote Ron or better Randy Paul in a second, i admire them because of their decency, consistency and they speak out about the issues) but the “ market doesn’t regulate itself not in a big scale, the markets are ruled by the banks and the investors and the billionaires, they are the ones who control the economies , I used to have bitcoin but once the big banks started to buy bitcoins I lost interest. So we need a government that start to work for us and protect or legislate that nobody powerful take advantage of US THE PEOPLE, I know I am a dreamer. In my humble opinion ideologies have to die, we have to United for the common good, and use common sense policies and be truthful not deceptive about “ hidden agendas” and that it’s why is so important what do you do and many people do, discuss ideas and expose the falsehood and intentions of these globalists and 2030 agenda and its 17 goals, they are so ridiculous written and they admitted that they can stop poverty in 7 years, so??? We know what cause poverty, we know that with the money we are giving Ukraine we can solve the homeless issue in America, we know that they are criminals and we know that if we don’t defend the second amendment we are done us a country, I say this beca Google and allies are putting in place forms to “ police the thoughts”. The FB CEO said that they respect freedom of speech but what they don’t want is “ the reach of that speech “, and she said it aloud, soft power and canceling you but not openly but mechanically.
I agree and very well explained the concepts of protective force and cohesive force, we cannot all be martyrs. The song is very powerful what make wonder how would it be a world were humans can govern themselves? Because that’s the root of all problems in the world, how do we behave. It’s very simple, a virtuous person has his or her sight in something bigger of themselves, a purpose, and they understand what life is about so their decisions are in that frame of mind . The opposite is what is happening in the world, we are ruled by megalomaniacs , psychopaths and narcissists who believe they are Gods, they really believe it, if you listen to Billy Boy talking is the first thing that is self evident, the guy want to stop the rays from the Sun!!! And he supported an experiment of this kind not other that Sweden!!! So not only he thinks is God but he is an imbecile and I wonder if he has “ sold” his soul already. Zachary King, once the more powerful Satanist Priest worked with him to “ make some things happen “, he is not the only one, the powerful are very religious, wrong God though. He responded to the question if he believes in God “ I don’t have evidence of it”, it looks like the guy has his head in some other part of his body because just to look around the created world and its complexity we know that there’s an intelligence behind everything that exists, we can’t create anything from nothing, if we put together the most genius people in the world they cannot create anything from nothing, we cannot create one atom neither one molecule. Anyway, a pleasure to read your essays.
Hey Chris, I wanted to share this artist with you. You may have heard of him already, he’s from Australia and his music screams freedom to me. Here’s one link, please check out some of his other music when you have time. His album “Storm Boy” is one of my all time favorites.
https://youtu.be/MBj5APUtOWc?si=W3kf4BIz-CQkCuIo
Thanks Christopher. Very timely as I have been contemplating this topic.
Thank you. Will do.
Agreed. I too would prefer avoiding violence to end violence. I also can’t see another route at this time. Perhaps there are plans afoot to achieve their destruction without violence. Most people would rejoice. Either way. 🙏🇺🇸🙏
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