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Angela Morris's avatar

People who say "it's the law" are the same people who say "just doing my job" as they harm others willingly and turn a blind eye to their own behaviors out of fear of losing their "position" in the hive. The "uniforms" they wear is the mask they cling to as an excuse to relinquish personal responsibility.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

At some point, there will be a new attempt at a kind of Nuremberg Defense. I hope we will have secured our independence to so complete a degree that we can afford to be magnanimous.

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Apollo's Lyre's avatar

Great post. Sorry you had to deal with that nonsense.

There are few "types" of people I loathe more than the Nurse Ratched/Headmaster Umbridge/Standford Prison Experiment types whose only sense of purpose, power, and perverse pleasure is derived from meancing other healthier, happier people with the fictitious authority "granted" them by the egregore of society's condensed fear and laziness masquerading as some benevolent Big Brother.

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David M. Edwards's avatar

So true and universally experienced everywhere

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Yep.

Though I know my law-and-order friends will be upset with me.

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James Goodrich's avatar

If we look at the U S government as a corporation that we are all customers forced to pay into it, it wouldn’t take but a minute to see how mishandled it is. This corporation takes in 5 trillion dollars every year but yet every year it goes 2 trillion dollars more in debt. Houston we have a serious problem. They can’t even agree to cut 9 billion, a drop in the bucket, in fraudulent wasteful spending. As for authoritarians we can look no further than the Milgram Experiment. Amazingly people are more than willing to take orders from authorities to hurt others. Even if the question it they keep right on going. I’m always amazed how people threw out treating people with respect, when it came to Covid and the “vaccine”.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Once you've seen and understood the nature of government and people, it cannot be unseen.

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albert venezio's avatar

Perfect Christopher! Most "Laws" where emplaced by lobbyists with an agenda from their controllers and are usually not for the best interests of the people but actually against the best interests of the people! "It's the law" is a moronic, mindless, cowardly statement.

This is the best, it says it all - thank you!:

"In the absence of voluntary, explicit, transparent, informed, and revocable consent, no one may damage, encroach, take, subjugate, or initiate coercive force upon the person, property, or liberty of another."

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Christopher Cook's avatar

"This is the best, it says it all"

--Thank you. I keep working it and reworking it, in search for the ideal wording. If you have suggestions/thoughts, do share!

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Chris Youngblood's avatar

I liked your summary of Natural Law. I also appreciate that you added breach of responsibility because in a voluntary society with no coercion this would be a key principle. I’ll add a personal ‘law’ that is affecting me. The Illinois legislature is trying to enforce a delivery tax on customers who use Door Dash(maybe others too). I door dash for extra money cause times are hard. I also started working for a 504 homeless organization which is less pay than what I was in, but more authentic work. So now, customers who I have a voluntary agreement to serve and they voluntarily tip me for said service, might not be able to tip so much because the criminal organization called government wants their tribute. Tribute for what?! For fucking existing and having the audacity to work on my own and customers agreeing to the service get shorted? What about the elderly who can’t leave their home? Screw them I guess so tyrants can pass their pork belly projects and make their friends rich. The absolute audacity these people have is mind boggling. But you are right, these ‘laws’ way more than not hurt humans who aren’t hurting anyone and sometimes it’s hurting humans helping other humans.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Well and rightly said, Chris.

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Hat Bailey's avatar

So true, just think of the obstructions placed in the way of people trying to help those affected by the hurricane in North Carolina.

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Chris Youngblood's avatar

Definitely. I was actually thinking about that when I posted my comment.

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Anthony Bruni's avatar

I always am amazed no one ever ponders just the amount of "laws" we have . Libraries of books are stuffed with what you can do what you can't do and how you must do it. People hire specialist to understand one aspect of it. Yet we are all expected to comply to it all or be punished.

And its this system that people think keeps them safe.

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Dave's avatar

Politicians don’t have to comply at all.

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Anthony Bruni's avatar

well of course not. The rules aren't for compliance but for selective enforcement.

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Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

"Power, in short, attracts losers, psychos, and authoritarian control freaks."

Agreed. But the term 'control freak' is too clunky for my liking, so I have coined an alternative: 'micromanager disorder.' Feel free to steal and spread it widely!

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Anthony Bruni's avatar

That's good. I might steal, I mean , tax that

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Micromanager is a good addition. But is it exactly the same as a control freak?

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Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

I dunno. “Micromanager disorder” just sounds better to me.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Being subjected to micromanager disorder is never a pleasant experience.

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Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

On purpose, because they all suffer from PTSD due to early childhood abuse and / or neglect. They hate the world, and use that as an excuse to lash out at others as recompense. Hateful leftard crybullies, all.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Yep. Tyranny of the lame

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Angela Morris's avatar

They use violence, force, and intimidation where there is no victim, thus no violation of natural law. People in these positions don't have true inner power so they can only get a resemblance of it by coercion and bullying...which is not actually true power. True power is calm, stoic and wielded from inner strength with no need to "take" from anyone else to soothe their own ego and weaknesses.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Well said.

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Squire's avatar

This recent note describes similar offences in England. https://substack.com/@starknakedbrief/note/c-124459994

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Good lord, those are horrifying.

I wonder how long before people stand up to this…

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John Ketchum's avatar

I was rousted by the police for no good reason several times when I was a young man. For example, one evening, after visiting a friend, I was walking home on a public sidewalk when a police car with flashing lights stopped beside me. Two officers got out and began to question me. I resented their intrusion and, apparently, was insufficiently obsequious. So they arrested me. I asked what they were charging me with and was told, “We'll make something up.” They took me to jail, where I was strip-searched and spent the night in a cell with a real criminal. I was released the next day because there was nothing with which I could be charged. I spoke to an attorney about suing for false arrest and was advised that it was a bad idea because the cops had ways of punishing people who challenged their authority. I haven't been bothered by the police for many years, perhaps because of my age, because I now try to be cooperative, or because the police in my city aren't as bad as they used to be.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

That is appalling...but all too typical.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

So Hamlin beach state park?

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Lol what makes you say so? After all, it *could* have been Lakeside Beach State Park 😆

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

I make a distinction between Law and "law." Law is the three Laws of Ethics, which are Natural Law expressed as the three things not to do. "law" is really legalates. The Laws are thus:

The three Laws of Ethics (Natural Law expressed as the three things not to do):

1. Do not willfully and without fully informed consent hurt or kill the flesh of anOther

2. Do not willfully and without fully informed consent take or damage anything that does not belong to You alone

3. Do not willfully defraud anOther (which can only happen without fully informed consent)

And I go into the legalates - which I do not consent to - here:

Calling a Legalate a Law (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/calling-a-legalate-a-law

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Domenic C. Scarcella's avatar

> while I monitored the Yankees game on Gameday

Aurora Borealis? More like Aurora BORINGalis, amiright? 🤣

The Gameday feature at MLB.com is pretty cool. I'd watch that over lots of things.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Lol yep. If the aurora had been rolling, even I, crazy Yankees fan, would have put the phone down.

Yeah, sometimes Gameday comes in quite handy!

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Warren Baxter's avatar

"If a law violates natural law, then it is morally impermissible. If a law comports with natural law, then it is unnecessary." Mic drop!

Since our corrupt Atterney General stole Washington States election for governor. Mr. Ferguson has signed 422 Bills from its collective power hungry Karen's and Kens. Not to mention a record breaking addition of taxes added. Going to one of our tax funded parks had an additional $30 fee for entrance (or $10 for single use) now costs $45. Now they are trying to raise property taxes up from 1% to 3% per year. Those working full time are finding themselves homeless, with not even a park to sleep in. Feels like we are getting ready to repeat the old Grapes of Wrath scenario. I'll reserve my comments of what needs to happen. But I do like one of your previous mentions of declaring sovern (untaxed) land.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

Government is an exploitation racket.

Not "some of the time" or "when bad people are in charge," but 100 percent of the time.

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Philip Mollica's avatar

Such instances always make my middle finger rise of its own volition.

Thankfully where we are now the scale is tipped in favor of those of us who are not that way.

We came here by design.

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Christopher Cook's avatar

🙏🔥

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