If we remain nameless like the Preacher in "Pale Rider", our new masters of the A/i universe will not be able to define us. Perhaps we can still do good work and remain nameless.
Yeah, that phrase "the greater good" has always set my teeth on edge. Who decides what the "greater good" is? It is only these narcissistic know-it-all's that have the arrogance to think they now and can force the rest of us to give our consent to their notion of what it is. And the other related pretenses implicit in sayings like "the government did this' and the "government said that" as though it acted or had an opinion like a person. Or talking about "the will of the people" as though all the people in this country was totally united on something (on anything these days) when what they really mean is the will of the elite controllers or approved scientists who are there to tell you what it is. Enough of that. I could accept Kyphon and Kyphons, although I like better the Free Terrans, the TUNLs (Terrans United for Natural Law) or even the Freeholders, as in the Freehold SF novels. I think some of those books clearly depicted the toughness that comes from a self reliant merit based society. It really depends on what meaning you give the name by your actions and intentions. Isn't it odd how they can try and make a name like "Truthers" into something silly and radical as though there was something wrong with wanting the truth, while "Woke" is someone noble and egalitarian (yeah, right) Pledgers would not even be bad if it was known to mean those who pledged their unity and allegiance to the first principles of natural law and individual sovereignty, and not some leader or a piece of cloth with pretty colors on it, or an imaginary invented entity like a corporation or national government. (but then I repeat myself again)
"Isn't it odd how they can try and make a name like "Truthers" into something silly and radical as though there was something wrong with wanting the truth, while "Woke" is someone noble and egalitarian (yeah, right) Pledgers would not even be bad if it was known to mean those who pledged their unity and allegiance to the first principles of natural law and individual sovereignty, and not some leader or a piece of cloth with pretty colors on it, or an imaginary invented entity like a corporation or national government. (but then I repeat myself again)"
—Right there with you on all of that. "Pledgers" would definitely get lampooned in that way.
I suppose anything would. That is part of why maybe Terran has some advantages. You can lampoon the people who call themselves that, but the meaning of the name itself is harder to mock than, say, pledger or truther or whatever.
Ultimately, the name needs to be very gestalt—more than the sum of its parts.
I knew you were going to be a go-to guy for this discussion, Hat!
"I could accept Kyphon and Kyphons, although I like better the Free Terrans, the TUNLs (Terrans United for Natural Law) or even the Freeholders, as in the Freehold SF novels."
—Freeholders… That's pretty good too! (Loved the first book, BTW.)
It's cogent and strong. However, might it not seem a bit "sovereign citizen-y," if you know what I mean? I like it, though.
Hey! (Sovereign Citizen) There is a perfect example of the controllers using their media lap dogs to demonize a perfectly legit concept. (They do it to movements they think may be a threat to their control, and don't think it won't happen to whatever name we pick in all likelihood Christopher) Nothing wrong with saying you are a sovereign, although I don't call myself a "citizen." They want people to see you as a wingnut is the point, no matter how noble the concept may be in reality.
You are absolutely right. They will demonize anything.
We just have to go with what is best for us.
Another thought occurs to me, and that is what will be most cogent worldwide. And to wide range of types of people, intelligence and educations levels, etc.
Right, that struck me as being a very core idea that relates to our purpose. We are not imposing some artificial arbitrary rules or personal values that everyone is expected to accept and adopt. It's like in personal intimate relationships, the wise person stresses letting the relationship grow naturally without an agenda or trying to make into something that matches some personal whim of one party or the other.
"Yeah, that phrase "the greater good" has always set my teeth on edge. Who decides what the "greater good" is? It is only these narcissistic know-it-all's that have the arrogance to think they now and can force the rest of us to give our consent to their notion of what it is. And the other related pretenses implicit in sayings like "the government did this' and the "government said that" as though it acted or had an opinion like a person. Or talking about "the will of the people" as though all the people in this country was totally united on something (on anything these days) when what they really mean is the will of the elite controllers or approved scientists who are there to tell you what it is. Enough of that."
Regardless of ideology - right or left, blue or red, capitalist or socialist all centralized governments tend to be authoritarians of necessity to maintain control. As with all sovereign entities borders are essential to preserve what is precious within against external forces with less than noble intent.
What applies to sovereign nations also applies to the sovereign person. They also need "virtual" borders to protect their souls from foreign invasion / occupation. And these personal walls can be built only by the owner, Sadly, fecklessly indulgent parents won't (or even know how to) mentor their progeny to achieve this.
In the world it's called Tolerance, in Hell it's called despair, The sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
Kids are a divine gift (Note that didn't say from G_d) and amazing little creatures. After transcending what can only be considered as an horrific trauma they begin life's journey with no sense of purpose or personhood. Before being taken home they're subjected to any number medical treatments, if they happen to own jiggly bits a medical student may well perform "cosmetic" surgery. That over with, the parents come in. It's a sacred responsibility never to be considered as a burden, and should never outsourced. The first little smile is a significant milestone, soon to be followed by many others. A parent's job is to mentor, imparting the difference between right and wrong and so and so forth. When I was growing up we had only one family rule - Be accountable, Or in other words - Don't disgrace yourself.
You mentioned what should parents do? It's a binary thing, the positive actions are self evident, OTOH, the negative ones not so much. We're all constantly challenged & stressed by myriad minor annoyances coupled with occasional major contentions and at times lose patience. Never offload your anger onto others, esp. your defenceless kids. That said & above all else nurture & encourage curiosity without fail, Yes. it can be disruptive & annoying at times, but it's the key to their human flourishing & a life long sense of wonder and creativity. Be gentle but firm when criticizing failure - it's a actually a gift, a learning opportunity that leads to success - the Universe's reward for overcoming failure. Always remember that your little ones are acutely cognizant & are experts at interpreting body language. Damp little sponges, as it were. It's hard work, frustrating at times. But a job well done is it own reward. A final thought
Our culture & our world have been invaded and occupied by rent-seeking grifters, AKA The Authoritarians - Centralized governments, Abrahamic religions and societal institutions -- most notably (and harmful) public education - a veritable scourge on
humanity. Remember: The Universe guides, the Universe provides. But only if you let it.
'Tis good parenting advice. People would say that we did well, given how amazing our son is. But I definitely also remember times when I got parenting wrong. Things I could have done better.
They say that kids do not come out with an instruction manual, and that is true. But I ben parenting schools, run by people like you, would do well!
Where do I find what you mean by a distributed nation? I'm fairly new here. Are you creating a legal entity that needs a name? It seems a distributed nation (by the nature of the 2 words in this term) seems to imply something with multiple individuals and groups and businesses involved. So are you suggesting each must align under one nation? So many thoughts and questions! Thanks for the inquiry!
If you read the introductory materials, it should give you an overview. Do you want to do that and get back to me? I don't mind summarizing, but the book itself tells the whole take, so if you want to get the full picture, that's the best way to go. LMK!
Summary is great if you’re willing to. I’m writing the back cover for my book I’m publishing next week. Woohoo! So I don’t have time now to dig in. So far I’m intrigued with your ideas!!
I just sent you more details by email. Let me know what gaps I can fill in from there. (It's best understood in toto, but I get that it's a lot to catch up on.)
Can always make an acronym out of it. The NPCs, for New Paradign Coalition or NCSs for Non Consenting Sovereigns not to be confused with Not Politically Correct although that probably applies in a way LOL. Lots of things to chew on until we find something that is catchy.
I am generally not keen on multi-word names turned into acronyms. That strikes me as being more about organizations that nations. I mean, I know some nations do that, but I am hoping for punchier and more gestalt.
But I am not categorically opposed, if the right thing comes along.
Yeah, acronyms are more evocative of agencies or corporate or military entities. We need to take a bit of time and get the best we can. Hard to pack into one or two words the heart of the concepts we embrace.
It definitely needs thought. How to convey elements of strength, wisdom, peace, unity, individualism, is a big task 😅 but exciting! I woke up (0650 in Australia) and this read cheered me for the day, who needs coffee when you can have talks of freedom to buzz on 🤣🙌🤝
I like what Kyfho stands for but the word is a bit awkward. Terra is good but not enough zing. I'll keep thinking on it as I know you and many others will.
What about libertas which means freedom .That's my two cents worth.
I thought of something related the other day, but now I am forgetting what it was. It'll come to me…
Yes, Libertas is the Roman goddess and personification of liberty.
ATLANTIS...
Lemuria
sorry could not resist
Would we call ourselves Lemurs? 🤣🤣
That's an interesting thought. Resurrecting what was lost…
If we remain nameless like the Preacher in "Pale Rider", our new masters of the A/i universe will not be able to define us. Perhaps we can still do good work and remain nameless.
I understand what you are saying.
But we are already nameless and atomized, and that has not availed us. The point here is to leverage some of the benefits of togetherness.
We also need to be able to find each other, and that means we need some identity.
I am done hiding. Our masters are coming for us either way. At least this way, we are stronger.
Yeah, that phrase "the greater good" has always set my teeth on edge. Who decides what the "greater good" is? It is only these narcissistic know-it-all's that have the arrogance to think they now and can force the rest of us to give our consent to their notion of what it is. And the other related pretenses implicit in sayings like "the government did this' and the "government said that" as though it acted or had an opinion like a person. Or talking about "the will of the people" as though all the people in this country was totally united on something (on anything these days) when what they really mean is the will of the elite controllers or approved scientists who are there to tell you what it is. Enough of that. I could accept Kyphon and Kyphons, although I like better the Free Terrans, the TUNLs (Terrans United for Natural Law) or even the Freeholders, as in the Freehold SF novels. I think some of those books clearly depicted the toughness that comes from a self reliant merit based society. It really depends on what meaning you give the name by your actions and intentions. Isn't it odd how they can try and make a name like "Truthers" into something silly and radical as though there was something wrong with wanting the truth, while "Woke" is someone noble and egalitarian (yeah, right) Pledgers would not even be bad if it was known to mean those who pledged their unity and allegiance to the first principles of natural law and individual sovereignty, and not some leader or a piece of cloth with pretty colors on it, or an imaginary invented entity like a corporation or national government. (but then I repeat myself again)
"Isn't it odd how they can try and make a name like "Truthers" into something silly and radical as though there was something wrong with wanting the truth, while "Woke" is someone noble and egalitarian (yeah, right) Pledgers would not even be bad if it was known to mean those who pledged their unity and allegiance to the first principles of natural law and individual sovereignty, and not some leader or a piece of cloth with pretty colors on it, or an imaginary invented entity like a corporation or national government. (but then I repeat myself again)"
—Right there with you on all of that. "Pledgers" would definitely get lampooned in that way.
I suppose anything would. That is part of why maybe Terran has some advantages. You can lampoon the people who call themselves that, but the meaning of the name itself is harder to mock than, say, pledger or truther or whatever.
Ultimately, the name needs to be very gestalt—more than the sum of its parts.
I knew you were going to be a go-to guy for this discussion, Hat!
"I could accept Kyphon and Kyphons, although I like better the Free Terrans, the TUNLs (Terrans United for Natural Law) or even the Freeholders, as in the Freehold SF novels."
—Freeholders… That's pretty good too! (Loved the first book, BTW.)
It's cogent and strong. However, might it not seem a bit "sovereign citizen-y," if you know what I mean? I like it, though.
Free Terrans is also pretty cool!
Hey! (Sovereign Citizen) There is a perfect example of the controllers using their media lap dogs to demonize a perfectly legit concept. (They do it to movements they think may be a threat to their control, and don't think it won't happen to whatever name we pick in all likelihood Christopher) Nothing wrong with saying you are a sovereign, although I don't call myself a "citizen." They want people to see you as a wingnut is the point, no matter how noble the concept may be in reality.
You are absolutely right. They will demonize anything.
We just have to go with what is best for us.
Another thought occurs to me, and that is what will be most cogent worldwide. And to wide range of types of people, intelligence and educations levels, etc.
Yes, that is a consideration. Naturalibras Naturalegists Individualistas....just free associating here.
Nature concepts = good.
Right, that struck me as being a very core idea that relates to our purpose. We are not imposing some artificial arbitrary rules or personal values that everyone is expected to accept and adopt. It's like in personal intimate relationships, the wise person stresses letting the relationship grow naturally without an agenda or trying to make into something that matches some personal whim of one party or the other.
"Yeah, that phrase "the greater good" has always set my teeth on edge. Who decides what the "greater good" is? It is only these narcissistic know-it-all's that have the arrogance to think they now and can force the rest of us to give our consent to their notion of what it is. And the other related pretenses implicit in sayings like "the government did this' and the "government said that" as though it acted or had an opinion like a person. Or talking about "the will of the people" as though all the people in this country was totally united on something (on anything these days) when what they really mean is the will of the elite controllers or approved scientists who are there to tell you what it is. Enough of that."
—BOOM. What you said.
This deception has been going on for my entire life, almost 63 years of my life.
In the words of ROCKY “ I WANNA KNOW” when will it end?
I understand how you feel.
We could just call ourselves Adults as living in a state of freedom is the natural state of sault humans
It sends a message!
But I think we'll want a bit more :-)
People Insuring Sane Social Organization For Freedom -or to abbreviate; PIS....F?
Naw?, Oh well. ;-)
well it better than People Insuring Sadistic Social Organization No-stop which is what we sort of have now
Right, maybe not—but I like your style!
Regardless of ideology - right or left, blue or red, capitalist or socialist all centralized governments tend to be authoritarians of necessity to maintain control. As with all sovereign entities borders are essential to preserve what is precious within against external forces with less than noble intent.
What applies to sovereign nations also applies to the sovereign person. They also need "virtual" borders to protect their souls from foreign invasion / occupation. And these personal walls can be built only by the owner, Sadly, fecklessly indulgent parents won't (or even know how to) mentor their progeny to achieve this.
In the world it's called Tolerance, in Hell it's called despair, The sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
- Dorothy Leigh Sayers
The concept of individual borders reminded me of this part of the book:
https://christophercook.substack.com/p/your-rights-are-real
Tell me—what should parents do?
Ours is 19, and as strong a character as ever I have seen in a 19 year old. But I am not sure how much we did, as opposed to him just being that way!
Kids are a divine gift (Note that didn't say from G_d) and amazing little creatures. After transcending what can only be considered as an horrific trauma they begin life's journey with no sense of purpose or personhood. Before being taken home they're subjected to any number medical treatments, if they happen to own jiggly bits a medical student may well perform "cosmetic" surgery. That over with, the parents come in. It's a sacred responsibility never to be considered as a burden, and should never outsourced. The first little smile is a significant milestone, soon to be followed by many others. A parent's job is to mentor, imparting the difference between right and wrong and so and so forth. When I was growing up we had only one family rule - Be accountable, Or in other words - Don't disgrace yourself.
You mentioned what should parents do? It's a binary thing, the positive actions are self evident, OTOH, the negative ones not so much. We're all constantly challenged & stressed by myriad minor annoyances coupled with occasional major contentions and at times lose patience. Never offload your anger onto others, esp. your defenceless kids. That said & above all else nurture & encourage curiosity without fail, Yes. it can be disruptive & annoying at times, but it's the key to their human flourishing & a life long sense of wonder and creativity. Be gentle but firm when criticizing failure - it's a actually a gift, a learning opportunity that leads to success - the Universe's reward for overcoming failure. Always remember that your little ones are acutely cognizant & are experts at interpreting body language. Damp little sponges, as it were. It's hard work, frustrating at times. But a job well done is it own reward. A final thought
Our culture & our world have been invaded and occupied by rent-seeking grifters, AKA The Authoritarians - Centralized governments, Abrahamic religions and societal institutions -- most notably (and harmful) public education - a veritable scourge on
humanity. Remember: The Universe guides, the Universe provides. But only if you let it.
'Tis good parenting advice. People would say that we did well, given how amazing our son is. But I definitely also remember times when I got parenting wrong. Things I could have done better.
They say that kids do not come out with an instruction manual, and that is true. But I ben parenting schools, run by people like you, would do well!
Free, independent, peaceful.
FIP's or else... 😂😂
Thanks Chris!
We do want to be all those things!
Thanks, An.
I am and will always be a Free Radical. Feel free to use if you'd like.
Free radical!!!
It also seems like a really good band name.
If I get this farm built to my liking and pick up an instrument......
I just checked and there is a band with that name. And they're total lefties. It looks polished, like astroturf. Yarg.
Damn them......
Sorry bro.
You'll just have to form…
The Freer Radicals!
Haha guess so....oh well it's still the best term to describe who and what I am.
Where do I find what you mean by a distributed nation? I'm fairly new here. Are you creating a legal entity that needs a name? It seems a distributed nation (by the nature of the 2 words in this term) seems to imply something with multiple individuals and groups and businesses involved. So are you suggesting each must align under one nation? So many thoughts and questions! Thanks for the inquiry!
Heya Kris—thank you for the inquiry. I sent you an email as well.
Everything I have up to this point is here:
https://christophercook.substack.com/t/thedistributednation
If you read the introductory materials, it should give you an overview. Do you want to do that and get back to me? I don't mind summarizing, but the book itself tells the whole take, so if you want to get the full picture, that's the best way to go. LMK!
Summary is great if you’re willing to. I’m writing the back cover for my book I’m publishing next week. Woohoo! So I don’t have time now to dig in. So far I’m intrigued with your ideas!!
I just sent you more details by email. Let me know what gaps I can fill in from there. (It's best understood in toto, but I get that it's a lot to catch up on.)
Good luck with the book—what's it about?
Kyfhonterra
pronounced: KIH-fahn-TER-a
Interesting thought!
Rolls off the tongue metrically. But it might lose the punch of either on their own.
Will think more on it—thanks!
I'm an Earthian... A sovereign on My planet. It's Your planet too, if You were born here... LOL!
I rather like "Earthians."
Earthian is nice. I think Terran is punchier, but Earthian is nice.
“Terran” is overused. LOLOL! “Earthian” is unique-ish.
Perhaps, perhaps. Much to consider!
🤗 💜 🤗
Free Earth Alliance? New Paradigm Coalition?
Free Earth Alliance has some zazz to it. Not sure I love the three-word thing. But I will give it thought!
Can always make an acronym out of it. The NPCs, for New Paradign Coalition or NCSs for Non Consenting Sovereigns not to be confused with Not Politically Correct although that probably applies in a way LOL. Lots of things to chew on until we find something that is catchy.
I am generally not keen on multi-word names turned into acronyms. That strikes me as being more about organizations that nations. I mean, I know some nations do that, but I am hoping for punchier and more gestalt.
But I am not categorically opposed, if the right thing comes along.
Yeah, acronyms are more evocative of agencies or corporate or military entities. We need to take a bit of time and get the best we can. Hard to pack into one or two words the heart of the concepts we embrace.
Yup! To be continued for sure.
Yes, worth taking some time and get something that really resonates.
It definitely needs thought. How to convey elements of strength, wisdom, peace, unity, individualism, is a big task 😅 but exciting! I woke up (0650 in Australia) and this read cheered me for the day, who needs coffee when you can have talks of freedom to buzz on 🤣🙌🤝
Dittos to Hat—Right on!
Personally, I think Terran sounds very strong. Like, it's Earth, but you don't mess with it!
But yeah, let's keep thinking it through…
RIght on!
🤩🤝
Yeah!
There's a Southpark for that! The Underpants Gnomes:
https://www.mygnomes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/underpants-gnomes-business-plan.png
My theory that there's a Southpark for pretty much everything in life is still standing strong all these years!
I love the Underpants Gnomes!
But how does it help me/us with a name? 🤣
That it does not do…but it is in that not doing that the Southpark is on point!
I do not ever want to be an Underpants Gnome!
An Excellent Chapter Christopher!
I like what Kyfho stands for but the word is a bit awkward. Terra is good but not enough zing. I'll keep thinking on it as I know you and many others will.
Zing. Hmmmm.
I feel like it has more gravitas than zing. Gravitas may be better…
I agree.
To much time in the business world.
So many things to consider!