I have 7 sisters. I love them all; we all love each other. This epic journey into ALMOST space makes me want to puke. It resembled a gaggle of women shoppers in a NYC taxi.
Yeah, it really ends up trivializing women in the name of empowerment. But on the other hand, if we just act like straight-up human beings unadorned with giggles, squeals, and hair moments, we get called harridans or schoolmarms.
Humbly... I think the whole was a production. The video of Them opening the door from the inside and a woman outside hastening to close it because it was supposed to be pressurized and could not be opened from the inside, and that's why Besos' part included "opening the door..."
It looked fake to Me, too, for what THAT's worth... LOL!
They ignored the physical reality that rockets cannot land backwards, and just acted like it was normal--it worked! These are major league con artists.
It’s pressurized to the equivalent of 8000’ above sea level. At ground elevation it isn’t pressurized relative to outside air. I can’t watch the whole video because my annoyance tolerance system can’t handle those women.
Well, the story was that it had to be opened from the outside... [shrug] It's all a bunk play anyway. Haha! And yeah, I watched only a very small bit of it.
LOL! Do You think They would risk Their Perry Mason…er…Katy Perry? And the video of Them opening the door of the capsule from the inside and the woman rushing to shut it because it was suppose to be pressurized and could not open from the inside (and thus Bezos’ script to “open” it”) showed to Me it was fake AF.
Why would it be pressurized at sea level? It would be like a plane where it’s pressurized at altitude, not the other way around. I’m guessing they wanted Bezos to open it from the outside for the presentation of it.
I grasp that, but seriously, They said it had to be opened from the outside, and there it was being opened from the inside. It was all a farce. Likely with ritual meaning.
Oh for sure it was all for presentation. And it’s dumb, the whole thing is dumb. But people going on about a “pressurized cabin” don’t know what they’re talking about, it’s only pressurized when it’s up in the air because it’s set at atmospheric pressure and not the other way around. These dummies have it backwards, lol.
Another sad thought occurred to me, and I’m positive never entered their minds, is that these women were used to promote a narrative that has permeated every aspect of relationships between men and women. They see themselves as special, the public sees them as privileged, those who used them see them as meat to be packaged and sold to promote the propaganda du jure.
Yeah…that is a tragic aspect of all this! The girl-bosses, for all their power, are actually pawns of an even higher power. An egregore, at least, and probably something far more concrete.
And then there is even a further distinction between being a humble, grateful, enthralled passenger and a narcissistic passenger engaged in performative virtue-signaling.
Yeah, amen to that. I’ve dreamed about going to space since I was a kid watching Alan Shepard or Neil Armstrong. If I got to do that 11 minutes I’d be weeping for joy.
I agree with your synopsis Christopher. Like most things nowadays it was very fake and scripted - theatre for the dumbed down. I saw a video of the landing, seemingly real, of Bezos waiting to open the door for them to come out with a special tool but they pushed the door open themselves from the inside of a pressurized cabin which seemingly can only be done from the outside as well as other anomalies.
Isn’t the cabin pressurized at sea level? So it would be pressurized at altitude but not back on earth. Like a plane. You can’t open the doors in the air but you can on the ground, as we occasionally see someone doing to climb out on the wing during an extended delay or whatever.
I'm no expert on it Victor so you may be right. The key is the girls opened it while Bezos had the special tool and was getting ready to open it from the outside. They had to do take 2 with Bezos opening the door. Its all Theater.
Yes, that is the conclusion that my wife and I came to as well. That it was done for performance reasons--that Bezos wanted to be the one to open it. That is one of his privileges--to be the guy that welcomes the travelers back.
Some years ago, I worked on several space launches with former astronaut and command pilot of the Apollo Soyuz Test Project Deke Slayton. One of the things about test pilots and people who have flown in space that you understand when you work with them is that they are humble. They are also extremely talented, good at what they do, and would be in a position to express arrogance. But they do not, because they have seen arrogant men and women "auger in" which is the way in which test pilots sometimes describe spinning out of control into the ground and other failure modes. There is a saying that there are old pilots, there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots. Arrogance and boldness gets people killed.
There is a globally accepted standard for "when are you in space" and it is described thus: "The Kármán line is an internationally recognized boundary, typically defined as 100 kilometers (62 miles) above sea level, that marks the transition between Earth's atmosphere and outer space. This line is often used to determine the demarcation between aeronautics and astronautics, and to define the point where space begins." So, in that sense, "they went to space" is not wrong.
Something on the close order of 104 women have flown in space, including two women who were part of a crew of four on the Fram 2 space mission which consisted of two married couples iirc, earlier this month. "The Fram2 mission crew consisted of four private astronauts: Chun Wang, Jannicke Mikkelsen, Rabea Rogge, and Eric Philips."
Your comments on the "girl boss" aspect of these recent matters is spot on, friend.
"Celebrities" are more like guests on The Jerry Springer Show these days. They're nearly always in the middle of some kind of ridiculous (and idiotic) drama. And they need to make sure that *everyone* knows it!
People have enough struggles in their own lives, and don't need any more drama. They damn sure don’t need to *import* drama – that doesn’t directly involve them.
Betty white did an interview with Larry King in 2010 (I can’t find anything on it now, which is strange). She said, "In my day, we worked hard to maintain a certain image, a higher standard. You didn’t spill your guts or parade your private life for the world to see."
The idea being that they knew they were (at least somewhat) revered, and so they did their best to portray a public image that was worthy of such admiration.
Fast forward to now, and spilling their guts and parading their private life for the world to see – is literally what most “celebrities” do these days. I don’t want to pay money – to hear other people talk about their experiences – in everyday life.
It is a conceit to believe that all things are getting better with the passage of time. But it is clear that not all things are. And you just providing an example of one.
I could never float on my back in a pool either - assumed it was because I have thick bones or something…. but at the age of 45 a friend pointed out to me that I was actually doing it wrong - maybe you’re making the same mistake.
My whole life it had never occurred to me to *lean my head back into the water*
Your head provides a surprising amount of buoyancy for your body. (I assumed since I was about to sink I needed to strain to keep my nose above the water line…not true. It’s a big hollow cocoanut and is vital to floating…
I grew up in a middle class neighborhood. My escape from reality is to sleep in tent out in the mountains of North Carolina. Seeing the rivers and climbing to peaks and enjoying the views. The tears of joy and sorrow that no one is with me.
Well, primary engines push the rocket in one direction. When they cut out, and gravity causes the object to fall back to earth, smaller engines slow the descent and control de acceleration. This is not new; it certainly is difficult to do though.
This is NOT an issue of belief--it is an issue of fact: the 'space flight' either occurred as represented, or it did not. Whether or not rockets can fly backward is something that can established with certainty, and no one's opinions or beliefs about it change that. Is there a patent for this technology? Is anyone else using it?
I mean it is physically impossible for a rocket to land backwards. They are designed only for forward motion guidance control. It would flop and roll all over the place.
I have watched a lot of videos of SpaceX vehicles doing this. If the idea is that they are all fakes, then I would want to confirm that by trying to find people who have been at the live reentries and seen them personally.
I'm more impressed by the first all Chimpanzee crewed space mission:
The first chimpanzee in space was Ham, launched on January 31, 1961, aboard the Mercury-Redstone 2 suborbital flight as part of Project Mercury. His flight lasted 16.5 minutes and reached an altitude of 157 miles. Ham's mission helped pave the way for the first American in space, Alan Shepard, later that year.
He operated the craft every bit as much as these fine ladies. All the more impressive given that he never graduated high school.
My late husband (18 yrs older) loved having me be his chauffeur. We just fought over the radio. Rock helped me drive (driving as dancing). He insisted on jazz. He won. (He was a lot bigger than me.) I came to love jazz.
I have 7 sisters. I love them all; we all love each other. This epic journey into ALMOST space makes me want to puke. It resembled a gaggle of women shoppers in a NYC taxi.
I was surprised that they didn’t literally puke, or maybe those moments were edited out.
Yeah, it really ends up trivializing women in the name of empowerment. But on the other hand, if we just act like straight-up human beings unadorned with giggles, squeals, and hair moments, we get called harridans or schoolmarms.
I personally just like it when people behave as themselves. Individuals are the most interesting.
It is possible that they were behaving as themselves at this point, which makes it all much worse.
Given how scripted and performative it was, that truly is a terrifying thought.
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Like you're so deep ma'am.
Yeah I'm a harridan
Sometimes harridans are OK! A needed perspective, yes?
Humbly... I think the whole was a production. The video of Them opening the door from the inside and a woman outside hastening to close it because it was supposed to be pressurized and could not be opened from the inside, and that's why Besos' part included "opening the door..."
It looked fake to Me, too, for what THAT's worth... LOL!
Nothing would surprise me.
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They ignored the physical reality that rockets cannot land backwards, and just acted like it was normal--it worked! These are major league con artists.
Indeed They are!
You need to revisit a basic physics class.
Please don't tell me you are teaching it.
It’s pressurized to the equivalent of 8000’ above sea level. At ground elevation it isn’t pressurized relative to outside air. I can’t watch the whole video because my annoyance tolerance system can’t handle those women.
Well, the story was that it had to be opened from the outside... [shrug] It's all a bunk play anyway. Haha! And yeah, I watched only a very small bit of it.
It’s not nearly dramatic enough to fake. They went up like 60 miles. It’s not that high. There was a guy who sky dove from 25 miles high.
Yup.
I saw the video of that jump. Amazing!
LOL! Do You think They would risk Their Perry Mason…er…Katy Perry? And the video of Them opening the door of the capsule from the inside and the woman rushing to shut it because it was suppose to be pressurized and could not open from the inside (and thus Bezos’ script to “open” it”) showed to Me it was fake AF.
Why would it be pressurized at sea level? It would be like a plane where it’s pressurized at altitude, not the other way around. I’m guessing they wanted Bezos to open it from the outside for the presentation of it.
I grasp that, but seriously, They said it had to be opened from the outside, and there it was being opened from the inside. It was all a farce. Likely with ritual meaning.
Oh for sure it was all for presentation. And it’s dumb, the whole thing is dumb. But people going on about a “pressurized cabin” don’t know what they’re talking about, it’s only pressurized when it’s up in the air because it’s set at atmospheric pressure and not the other way around. These dummies have it backwards, lol.
I grasp that, but the “official story” was that Besos had to open the capsule because it can’t be opened from inside because of cabin pressure.
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I wouldn't get in an enclosed space with Katy Perry for any reason.
I occasionally hear some pretty wild and weird things about her…
Nee meither...
Another sad thought occurred to me, and I’m positive never entered their minds, is that these women were used to promote a narrative that has permeated every aspect of relationships between men and women. They see themselves as special, the public sees them as privileged, those who used them see them as meat to be packaged and sold to promote the propaganda du jure.
Yeah…that is a tragic aspect of all this! The girl-bosses, for all their power, are actually pawns of an even higher power. An egregore, at least, and probably something far more concrete.
It’s cool thing to do and I’d love it, but there’s a difference between being on a mission, doing meaningful work, and being a passenger on a flight.
And then there is even a further distinction between being a humble, grateful, enthralled passenger and a narcissistic passenger engaged in performative virtue-signaling.
Yeah, amen to that. I’ve dreamed about going to space since I was a kid watching Alan Shepard or Neil Armstrong. If I got to do that 11 minutes I’d be weeping for joy.
I wish I had billions in disposable income. I’d book us both a trip!
Yes, they were very privileged. If they even went.
I agree with your synopsis Christopher. Like most things nowadays it was very fake and scripted - theatre for the dumbed down. I saw a video of the landing, seemingly real, of Bezos waiting to open the door for them to come out with a special tool but they pushed the door open themselves from the inside of a pressurized cabin which seemingly can only be done from the outside as well as other anomalies.
I am assuming they actually took the trip. But these days, who the heck knows.
Exactly.
Isn’t the cabin pressurized at sea level? So it would be pressurized at altitude but not back on earth. Like a plane. You can’t open the doors in the air but you can on the ground, as we occasionally see someone doing to climb out on the wing during an extended delay or whatever.
I'm no expert on it Victor so you may be right. The key is the girls opened it while Bezos had the special tool and was getting ready to open it from the outside. They had to do take 2 with Bezos opening the door. Its all Theater.
Yeah exactly I think they wanted to do it that way for the presentation of it. Not a conspiracy for a pressurized cabin like some are saying.
Yes, that is the conclusion that my wife and I came to as well. That it was done for performance reasons--that Bezos wanted to be the one to open it. That is one of his privileges--to be the guy that welcomes the travelers back.
Some years ago, I worked on several space launches with former astronaut and command pilot of the Apollo Soyuz Test Project Deke Slayton. One of the things about test pilots and people who have flown in space that you understand when you work with them is that they are humble. They are also extremely talented, good at what they do, and would be in a position to express arrogance. But they do not, because they have seen arrogant men and women "auger in" which is the way in which test pilots sometimes describe spinning out of control into the ground and other failure modes. There is a saying that there are old pilots, there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots. Arrogance and boldness gets people killed.
There is a globally accepted standard for "when are you in space" and it is described thus: "The Kármán line is an internationally recognized boundary, typically defined as 100 kilometers (62 miles) above sea level, that marks the transition between Earth's atmosphere and outer space. This line is often used to determine the demarcation between aeronautics and astronautics, and to define the point where space begins." So, in that sense, "they went to space" is not wrong.
Something on the close order of 104 women have flown in space, including two women who were part of a crew of four on the Fram 2 space mission which consisted of two married couples iirc, earlier this month. "The Fram2 mission crew consisted of four private astronauts: Chun Wang, Jannicke Mikkelsen, Rabea Rogge, and Eric Philips."
Your comments on the "girl boss" aspect of these recent matters is spot on, friend.
104 women is a lot of women!
All forgotten in this photo op for narcissists.
Mars needs women! And other similar cultural references.
Mars needs a thicker atmosphere.
Had something gone wrong on that eleven-minute flight, every one of them would have wanted a man there to fix it.
I wish I could hear their reaction to that notion. 'Twould be comedy gold!
And to be calm about it. If you look back at the footage of the last bombing in Paris, you see all the women hysterical, and the men are holding them.
How people believe all the idiocy that men and women are the same it’s beyond me I don’t care how much they’ve been filled with propaganda
They rode in a white, rooster shaped, rocket. Fitting.
I wonder if any of them noticed.
I am definitely NOT going there...
"Celebrities" are more like guests on The Jerry Springer Show these days. They're nearly always in the middle of some kind of ridiculous (and idiotic) drama. And they need to make sure that *everyone* knows it!
People have enough struggles in their own lives, and don't need any more drama. They damn sure don’t need to *import* drama – that doesn’t directly involve them.
Betty white did an interview with Larry King in 2010 (I can’t find anything on it now, which is strange). She said, "In my day, we worked hard to maintain a certain image, a higher standard. You didn’t spill your guts or parade your private life for the world to see."
The idea being that they knew they were (at least somewhat) revered, and so they did their best to portray a public image that was worthy of such admiration.
Fast forward to now, and spilling their guts and parading their private life for the world to see – is literally what most “celebrities” do these days. I don’t want to pay money – to hear other people talk about their experiences – in everyday life.
Maybe that’s just me.
It's not just you.
It is a conceit to believe that all things are getting better with the passage of time. But it is clear that not all things are. And you just providing an example of one.
"These six women went weightless..." After years of obsessive dieting that must have been nice!
I am very thin, so I don’t even really float in water. It’d be fun to try weightlessness!
I could never float on my back in a pool either - assumed it was because I have thick bones or something…. but at the age of 45 a friend pointed out to me that I was actually doing it wrong - maybe you’re making the same mistake.
My whole life it had never occurred to me to *lean my head back into the water*
Your head provides a surprising amount of buoyancy for your body. (I assumed since I was about to sink I needed to strain to keep my nose above the water line…not true. It’s a big hollow cocoanut and is vital to floating…
I would have thought that I had tried that, but maybe not!
There’s a pool in the hotel were in, so I will…
My comment is no comment. Chicks got a ride of a lifetime. I would not have done it. I am not jealous of anyone who does go.
Because you have no interest in the experience? Because you are worried about the things that can go wrong? (Just curious.)
I grew up in a middle class neighborhood. My escape from reality is to sleep in tent out in the mountains of North Carolina. Seeing the rivers and climbing to peaks and enjoying the views. The tears of joy and sorrow that no one is with me.
I'm sigma I can't get into what most people think
Love that comment.."the tears of joy and sorrow that no one is with me." I can relate to both sides.
I understand. Thank you for sharing that!
The entire event seems like a mockery, considering that it requires us to believe a rocket can land backwards.
Well, primary engines push the rocket in one direction. When they cut out, and gravity causes the object to fall back to earth, smaller engines slow the descent and control de acceleration. This is not new; it certainly is difficult to do though.
I spoke with someone more involved with space matters. The technology has been around for a while, and SpaceX has been doing it since 2015.
That does not explain how the backwards rocket physically maneuvers to hit its target. You should read that article I posted below.
There is plenty of information on this; it is fact it occurs. If you choose to not believe, nothing we can say here will likely convince you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_reusable_launch_system_development_program#:~:text=After%20stage%20separation%2C%20the%20booster,low%2Daltitude%20deceleration%20and%20touchdown.
This is NOT an issue of belief--it is an issue of fact: the 'space flight' either occurred as represented, or it did not. Whether or not rockets can fly backward is something that can established with certainty, and no one's opinions or beliefs about it change that. Is there a patent for this technology? Is anyone else using it?
You mean the way SpaceX reuses its vehicles—getting them to return to the pad?
I mean it is physically impossible for a rocket to land backwards. They are designed only for forward motion guidance control. It would flop and roll all over the place.
I have watched a lot of videos of SpaceX vehicles doing this. If the idea is that they are all fakes, then I would want to confirm that by trying to find people who have been at the live reentries and seen them personally.
Here is an article that goes into some detail as to why these backwards landings were all faked and did not occur in real life. https://blog.banditobooks.com/its-a-long-way-down-folks/
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This is why I hate rabbit holes 🤣🤣 Is this guy right? Or is he wrong? I cannot say.
Ask an aeronautical engineer.
I'm more impressed by the first all Chimpanzee crewed space mission:
The first chimpanzee in space was Ham, launched on January 31, 1961, aboard the Mercury-Redstone 2 suborbital flight as part of Project Mercury. His flight lasted 16.5 minutes and reached an altitude of 157 miles. Ham's mission helped pave the way for the first American in space, Alan Shepard, later that year.
He operated the craft every bit as much as these fine ladies. All the more impressive given that he never graduated high school.
I think they should have given him a rank. Lt. Col. Ham sounds way cool.
Note, none were allowed to drive. “The craft operates autonomously and doesn't have a pilot”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2025/04/13/blue-origin-launch-space-new-shepard/83024574007/
😂 When we were young my boyfriends wouldn't let me drive, either
My wife prefers that I drive. She calls it "Driving Miss Judy."
My late husband (18 yrs older) loved having me be his chauffeur. We just fought over the radio. Rock helped me drive (driving as dancing). He insisted on jazz. He won. (He was a lot bigger than me.) I came to love jazz.
Ah, the perennial battle over music in the car!
We both share a taste for rock, but then I add in some weird stuff that she's not into. So we just sprinkle in some of that and all is well.
I'm glad we finally know what a woman is.
Just in time!