I am living in a long established off grid area. Many many people see all the problems, many like thinkers. But, most of them do not want to build together or work for any kind of change, they think they can vote their way out or just want to live out the last 15 or more or less years of their lives living on social security and a little help from the monthly Catholic food truck donations that come here. Others are just here to live a less expensive life and have jobs and maybe they want to grow their own food, but they think that’s really hard here. There is one organizer who tried ‘bringing people together’ and who wants to represent the voice of the people with the county… we are in an unincorporated area w no govt reps, except for a small town nearby, which incidentally refused to shut down during 2020… this ‘alliance’ as she calls it, is nothing of the sort. Then there are the drug addicts, drug labs and generally crazy and selfish people. Most of the men act like children. Although I suppose the men who are not children, are working and oft not seen.
I moved here a year ago… and it’s both better and worse than I thought, but I didn’t come here with any illusions. But, I have determined that the first order of business is not to get people together to then ‘do something’, but I’m going to invest in farming. We cannot have a an autonomous community without some kind of food production.
Oh yes… I have made lots of friends actually and many positive associations. My associations and friendships really ramped up when I got a job at a glamping site. The people up here will generally come to your aid as they are all more aware of the need for that here as we are all off grid. So that’s a good sign.
One unanticipated problem we encountered after moving to a rural area, populated by a large percentage of established self-sufficient families, is the difficulty of establishing relationships with the local people. Simply put, they don’t need new relationships. The people are far more cordial than the left-coasters we moved away from, but I think the attribute of self sufficiency can make it difficult for outsiders to find their way into the community.
I find this to be true. We moved to Appalachia over 15 years ago. While I have made a few friends, we will always be considered outsiders. News of a new arrival spread fast. We would go into town for supplies and folks would say "OH! You must be the ones up on old Earls farm". It was unsettling at first. Eventually they got used to us. But we will always be the outsiders.
Yes, I can see that. It’s not easy to make associations. But, it was difficult in the city too. But, once you figure it out… you can more easily reach people in a small community. But, it helps if you’ve managed to prove yourself. A lot of people in my community are on social media, but I got kicked off those platforms back around 2016 for posting links to videos of parents discussing their children’s vax injuries. Had two jobs want me to get on WhatsApp, and I got kicked off within 24 hours of signing up. At this point, I don’t want to. But, I’ve actually found it better to stay off that, and form associations in real life. But, everyone in different rural areas have different types of opportunities and abilities. Hopefully, I can have some kind of functional farming group that will mostly still be viable during the tribulation. We need to prepare to be there for our brothers who refuse the mark and want to leave Babylon. Or at least the ones in my immediate area. And maybe it’s all in vain, but, until then, we all need to make some kind of living and continue to brush with the non believers, so that we may continue efforts to spread the gospel.
It is hard in the city too, and in the suburbs. Generally speaking, one must go out and engage in associations: groups, work, church, etc. That’s where we generally meet people.
And yes, you are wise to try to make allies for the future as well.
I'm glad my 'cracks' comment resonated with you Christopher. As I've noted elsewhere, I haven't a lot of skin left in the game (As I write this in 16 hours and 14 minutes I'll be 87, but who's counting.) so it's grand to see a young whippersnapper such as yourself run with it.
Another thing I've noted before, it's rather important to develop a secure communication network. Now all exchanges, internet, cell phones, etc. go through central controlled bottlenecks and we can be pretty sure this and all other comments, exchanges are copied, archived by at least 3 ABC agencies and thus within their purview forever more.
Also our internet and cell access can be limited or terminated at our honorable and esteemed leaders whims.
A LoRa net, peer to peer and peer through peer to peer, for example bypasses them, their control and bottlenecks. maybe neither you nor I have the time to plan and package such but; "Hey George, why don't you build it and Chris and I and Tom, Dick and Harry will buy it?"
15 hours and 46 minutes 'till I'm 87 now, I type slow. ;-)
I look forward to when I again have a home, but will do all I can to co-create better with Others! I thank You for Your work towards better, as We need People doing that. [hugs!]
I was wondering. Though it's not what your topic is on, but with all the peering "eyes" at our online activity and all that's coming, I hate sharing too much of anything online. And less so, day by day. Idk how to overcome that.
I know they have enough about/on me already to have me "pegged", but I'm getting spooked. Am I the only one thinking this way??
There are things you can do to mitigate the issue (VPNs, etc.). But at the end of the day, we cannot let them drive us from the public square. THEY are the pariahs. They are the psychopath interlopers on normal human life. It is they who should be too ashamed to show their faces.
The more of us speaking, the better. Take heart.
And also note that I will not be calling for us to do anything illegal. Martyrdom is counterproductive. We need to play a longer, smarter game.
Anything that goes counter to the matrix is verboten to these freaks -------- with cold, calculating, no empathy ai to run things for them, and to help keep things "just so".
Sure, as a whole BUT a great many are barely surviving because of all that they're doing to destroy this present system so they're kind of checked out from being beaten down, many are asleep -----dreaming of when this country goes back to the good ol' days, leaving those that can see and "think" of the future. I'm not sure that's alot. I don't know.
Once they switch over to social credit and the rest ...... To me that's scary. But that's me.
The Bible has a verse that says (paraphrasing) to not think about tomorrow "because today has enough troubles of its own". I think thats what some call " staying in the moment". There are also verses that say to prepare for things. That's quite a balancing act. :/
I'm already living in my little outpost of Xandara in this world and quite willing to make common cause with all who yearn for greater freedom and refuse to submit and bend the knee. https://substack.com/home/post/p-151030196
I am living in a long established off grid area. Many many people see all the problems, many like thinkers. But, most of them do not want to build together or work for any kind of change, they think they can vote their way out or just want to live out the last 15 or more or less years of their lives living on social security and a little help from the monthly Catholic food truck donations that come here. Others are just here to live a less expensive life and have jobs and maybe they want to grow their own food, but they think that’s really hard here. There is one organizer who tried ‘bringing people together’ and who wants to represent the voice of the people with the county… we are in an unincorporated area w no govt reps, except for a small town nearby, which incidentally refused to shut down during 2020… this ‘alliance’ as she calls it, is nothing of the sort. Then there are the drug addicts, drug labs and generally crazy and selfish people. Most of the men act like children. Although I suppose the men who are not children, are working and oft not seen.
I moved here a year ago… and it’s both better and worse than I thought, but I didn’t come here with any illusions. But, I have determined that the first order of business is not to get people together to then ‘do something’, but I’m going to invest in farming. We cannot have a an autonomous community without some kind of food production.
I definitely hear you.
Do you have any friends in the area?
Oh yes… I have made lots of friends actually and many positive associations. My associations and friendships really ramped up when I got a job at a glamping site. The people up here will generally come to your aid as they are all more aware of the need for that here as we are all off grid. So that’s a good sign.
Yeah, that’s actually quite good. A lot of people know no one. Keep nurturing those friendships!
One unanticipated problem we encountered after moving to a rural area, populated by a large percentage of established self-sufficient families, is the difficulty of establishing relationships with the local people. Simply put, they don’t need new relationships. The people are far more cordial than the left-coasters we moved away from, but I think the attribute of self sufficiency can make it difficult for outsiders to find their way into the community.
I find this to be true. We moved to Appalachia over 15 years ago. While I have made a few friends, we will always be considered outsiders. News of a new arrival spread fast. We would go into town for supplies and folks would say "OH! You must be the ones up on old Earls farm". It was unsettling at first. Eventually they got used to us. But we will always be the outsiders.
This is common enough. Do you have any friends in the area?
A very precious few. 🤷♀️
Nurture those friendships!
Yes, I can see that. It’s not easy to make associations. But, it was difficult in the city too. But, once you figure it out… you can more easily reach people in a small community. But, it helps if you’ve managed to prove yourself. A lot of people in my community are on social media, but I got kicked off those platforms back around 2016 for posting links to videos of parents discussing their children’s vax injuries. Had two jobs want me to get on WhatsApp, and I got kicked off within 24 hours of signing up. At this point, I don’t want to. But, I’ve actually found it better to stay off that, and form associations in real life. But, everyone in different rural areas have different types of opportunities and abilities. Hopefully, I can have some kind of functional farming group that will mostly still be viable during the tribulation. We need to prepare to be there for our brothers who refuse the mark and want to leave Babylon. Or at least the ones in my immediate area. And maybe it’s all in vain, but, until then, we all need to make some kind of living and continue to brush with the non believers, so that we may continue efforts to spread the gospel.
It is hard in the city too, and in the suburbs. Generally speaking, one must go out and engage in associations: groups, work, church, etc. That’s where we generally meet people.
And yes, you are wise to try to make allies for the future as well.
How long have you been there?
1 year
I think if you keep at it, you will melt some hearts.
Living like the ants, building our domain, expanding our colony….
I prefer the seed/grass/tree metaphor, but YEP!!
3 years plus
I'm glad my 'cracks' comment resonated with you Christopher. As I've noted elsewhere, I haven't a lot of skin left in the game (As I write this in 16 hours and 14 minutes I'll be 87, but who's counting.) so it's grand to see a young whippersnapper such as yourself run with it.
Another thing I've noted before, it's rather important to develop a secure communication network. Now all exchanges, internet, cell phones, etc. go through central controlled bottlenecks and we can be pretty sure this and all other comments, exchanges are copied, archived by at least 3 ABC agencies and thus within their purview forever more.
Also our internet and cell access can be limited or terminated at our honorable and esteemed leaders whims.
A LoRa net, peer to peer and peer through peer to peer, for example bypasses them, their control and bottlenecks. maybe neither you nor I have the time to plan and package such but; "Hey George, why don't you build it and Chris and I and Tom, Dick and Harry will buy it?"
15 hours and 46 minutes 'till I'm 87 now, I type slow. ;-)
Happy birthday, Jim! (You are almost exactly six days older than my mom.)
I am 57, so I too will not live to see the full blossom of many of the trees we are planting now. But we must plant them nonetheless.
Yes to mesh/LoRa. And yes to finding someone to contract with for it. Smart plan.
We are, for sure, a population of at least 2. I'm with you 💯.
It’s happening!!
I look forward to when I again have a home, but will do all I can to co-create better with Others! I thank You for Your work towards better, as We need People doing that. [hugs!]
Your body is your home, and the space you occupy is sovereign.
Well, true dat. LOL! But it makes it difficult to grow food, sleep in a bed, and other things. Haha!
🙏
Perfect Christopher!
That was great! Thank you!
Kinda like, Q: how do you eat an elephant?
A: one bite at a time
I was wondering. Though it's not what your topic is on, but with all the peering "eyes" at our online activity and all that's coming, I hate sharing too much of anything online. And less so, day by day. Idk how to overcome that.
I know they have enough about/on me already to have me "pegged", but I'm getting spooked. Am I the only one thinking this way??
There are things you can do to mitigate the issue (VPNs, etc.). But at the end of the day, we cannot let them drive us from the public square. THEY are the pariahs. They are the psychopath interlopers on normal human life. It is they who should be too ashamed to show their faces.
The more of us speaking, the better. Take heart.
And also note that I will not be calling for us to do anything illegal. Martyrdom is counterproductive. We need to play a longer, smarter game.
And in the meantime, we are still free to speak.
Anything that goes counter to the matrix is verboten to these freaks -------- with cold, calculating, no empathy ai to run things for them, and to help keep things "just so".
Thank you for your reply!
There are more of us than there are of them.
In terms of us versus them?
Sure, as a whole BUT a great many are barely surviving because of all that they're doing to destroy this present system so they're kind of checked out from being beaten down, many are asleep -----dreaming of when this country goes back to the good ol' days, leaving those that can see and "think" of the future. I'm not sure that's alot. I don't know.
Once they switch over to social credit and the rest ...... To me that's scary. But that's me.
Sure, it is definitely scary. So what do we do about it?
Pray. Cower. Lol.
Pray some more
The Bible has a verse that says (paraphrasing) to not think about tomorrow "because today has enough troubles of its own". I think thats what some call " staying in the moment". There are also verses that say to prepare for things. That's quite a balancing act. :/
I'm already living in my little outpost of Xandara in this world and quite willing to make common cause with all who yearn for greater freedom and refuse to submit and bend the knee. https://substack.com/home/post/p-151030196
Many tribes, one nation.
Yes!